Confirmed with Link: Petr Mrazek signed 1 year, 1.5M

DaveG

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It's not hyperbole to say we go into next season with hands down the most miserable situation in net in the league. Along those lines, I'm not sure offhand if I can name a team that went into a season with a worse situation than the one we have now.
Yeah as I said, we flat out are going in to the season with the worst goaltending tandem of any non-expansion team since the 80s. About the only team in even marginally recent memory are the pre-lockout Thrashers. Went in to 02-03 and 03-04 (4 and 5 years post expansion should be enough time to find a non-garbage goalie) with tandems featuring Passi Nurminen, Frederic Cassivi, Byron Dafoe, and Milan Hnilicka while they were letting Lehtonen develop.

Maybe the Toskala Leafs and the intentional tanking era Sabres. Though I still would have taken Neuvirth over either of Mrazek or Darling so maybe not them.

OK, yeah, Toskala Leafs in year one there: Toskala-Raycroft-Clemmensen and in year two Toskala-past prime Gerber-41 yo corpse of Curtis Joseph, and LMAO Pogge
 
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Yeah as I said, we flat out are going in to the season with the worst goaltending tandem of any non-expansion team since the 80s. About the only team in even marginally recent memory are the pre-lockout Thrashers. Went in to 02-03 and 03-04 (4 and 5 years post expansion should be enough time to find a non-garbage goalie) with tandems featuring Passi Nurminen, Frederic Cassivi, Byron Dafoe, and Milan Hnilicka while they were letting Lehtonen develop.

Maybe the Toskala Leafs and the intentional tanking era Sabres. Though I still would have taken Neuvirth over either of Mrazek or Darling so maybe not them.

I mean the Stars had Lehtonen and Niemi for a few years...

The good news is it’s a 1-year deal.
 

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I’ll be honest, if we kept Ward and paired him with Mrazek I would’ve been totally ok with this.

Watching the Ward goodbye video is truly touching and a bit painful. Saying goodbye to Cam because we won’t pay for Darling to leave, while making perfect business sense is still bugging the **** out of me.

Especially considering they have $30 million in Cap and an owner who just said publicly that they have to spend closer to the ceiling if they want to compete. Kinda looks like they aren’t interested in competing.
 

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Man, the overreaction to this and overly pessimistic outlook for the next season has to be at an all-time high around here.
Where is the overreaction? Saying that Darling and Mrazek both sucked ass last year is not an exaggeration, they were both horrid. The same reasons on why we wanted nothing to do with Darling next year were some of the same things that were said in Philly about Mrazek after he shit the sheets post-trade.

Hopefully Mrazek can turn it around, but he was awful last season. And he doesn't have being fat and overweight to excuse his bad play like Darling does.
 

DaveG

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I’ll be honest, if we kept Ward and paired him with Mrazek I would’ve been totally ok with this.

Watching the Ward goodbye video is truly touching and a bit painful. Saying goodbye to Cam because we won’t pay for Darling to leave, while making perfect business sense is still bugging the **** out of me.
This is where I am. Buying out Darling and signing Ward to something like he was signed to in Chicago (would assume he'd take 1 year, 2.5 from us) and bringing in Mrazek on a "prove it" would be a better situation. And would STILL be cheaper then our goaltending is going to be this season.
 

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Man, the overreaction to this and overly pessimistic outlook for the next season has to be at an all-time high around here.

In the absence of further moves, this is the most talented group of skaters the organization has assembled in a decade. There's a ton of potential both in terms of young players stepping up and veterans rebounding. Goaltending may, probably will, hold them back, but this should be an interesting team to watch going into next season. Personally, I'm excited.
 

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Where is the overreaction? Saying that Darling and Mrazek both sucked ass last year is not an exaggeration, they were both horrid. The same reasons on why we wanted nothing to do with Darling next year were some of the same things that were said in Philly about Mrazek after he **** the sheets post-trade.

Hopefully Mrazek can turn it around, but he was awful last season. And he doesn't have being fat and overweight to excuse his bad play like Darling does.

I'm not here to tell you they're better in goal or that I love this move, but Cam Ward's .906 save percentage last year won some games, but it still ranked T-44th of goaltenders to play 20+ games. Mrazek was worse, but not by much. If either he or Darling rebounds, they're better off. They went from Hanifin to Hamilton, Lindholm to Svechnikov, and Ryan to Ferland -- all positive changes. They have awkward pairings on defense right now, but that doesn't mean it's a square peg in a round hole. They've got a new coach that's probably going to do more than just make sarcastic comments in the media. Saying they're going to tank or they're a bottom 5 team or anything of that nature is just stupid and panicky and childish. They're going to be a bubble team for most of the year, just like they've always been. If Darling or Mrazek pan out, they might even be better. I'm really not sure what anybody expected.
 

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In the absence of further moves, this is the most talented group of skaters the organization has assembled in a decade. There's a ton of potential both in terms of young players stepping up and veterans rebounding. Goaltending may, probably will, hold them back, but this should be an interesting team to watch going into next season. Personally, I'm excited.
Thing is even if the skaters are better we're still not going to win. We saw what happened to the Oilers and Isles this past season, you can't try to win every game 5-4 and that's exactly what we're going to have to try to do with these two in net. The only thing I can say for Mrazek is that he's still young and maybe Joseph/Bales can fix whatever it is that broke in him after 15-16.
 

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I’ll be honest, if we kept Ward and paired him with Mrazek I would’ve been totally ok with this.

Watching the Ward goodbye video is truly touching and a bit painful. Saying goodbye to Cam because we won’t pay for Darling to leave, while making perfect business sense is still bugging the **** out of me.

They can talk about "culture change" all they want, but their refusal to 86 the guy who torpedoed their previous season because he was too fat is telling.
 

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Almost everything has to go right for us to be a bubble team though. Rookies need to step up almost right away, the D needs to find chemistry right away even though it appears some d-men might be playing on their off sides, and the goalies have to put up better numbers than they did last year which could be a tall task.

Ultimately I'm not that disappointed because I knew after Grubauer (who was no slam dunk himself), the options at goalie were beyond horrendous. I didn't and still don't expect us to be a playoff team next year. Our team is what it is at this point. No need to get worked up over it.
 

Ole Gil

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A reset would definitely be a good thing for Mrazek. But how do you think he will react if Darling gets 2 poor starts in a row and Mrazek gets a quick hook?

I question whether a goalie tandem with Darling is the best spot for Mrazek to reset after reading that column.

If Darling stinks it up, and keeps getting starts, then Mrazek should be mad. And we should be mad. But I think we're all optimistic Rod is going to give out playing time to the people who earn it.
 

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The whole “we made a better offer for Grubauer” narrative needs to stop. We only were better by 5 picks in the middle of the second round. There is not much value there and Colorado’s being in another conference was more valuable. If we really wanted Gru, we should have added more to the package...our second 4th round pick this year comes to mind. Was that really worth more than the difference between Gru and Mrazek? I got to say, I miss Karmanos already. At least he allowed the GM to spend some money occasionally to fix some personnel mistakes.
 

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OK, obviously I'm not dazzled by this, but there was literally nothing dazzling available. And I don't get the "money" argument. This is not a problem that can be solved by throwing money at it. A couple of people hit on the key above, and that's the term. We simply couldn't afford to sign a multi-year deal with a goalie who was not a sure thing. Worst-case coming out of all this would be having Hutton/Lehner/Halak *and* Darling signed through 2020-21 and still having sub .900 goaltending.

Even if we *had* gotten Grubauer and immediately signed him to the same deal Colorado gave him, now he's signed as long as Darling, and if he's not the solution, we're screwed. He's never been a No. 1 at the NHL level and tanked in the playoffs, so it's not like he came with any sort of guarantee.

We took a shot on a guy with NHL skills and NHL experience on a one-year "prove it" contract. IMO, it's the best we could have hoped for coming into today. Any better goalie would have required more term. And that's not something we should do right now.

I'm completely weirded out that we didn't take a shot at any of the European free agent goalies, so that's hard to understand from Canes management. But we could do worse than having two goalies who have had success at the NHL level, both feeling that they have something to prove after terrible seasons. Both these guys are decent people, who can't feel great about the way last season went. I'm willing to give them a shot to get themselves back on track.

As for Mrazek individually, if he sucks, we can easily waive his $1.5 million, one-year deal or bury him in the AHL and try to make a deal for Varlamov, Schneider or any other starter-turned-backup around the league. I don't get the feeling that we're tanking the season. There's upside here. And it's not like this is all set in stone. Things can change. If they're both 1-4 after 10 games, I have more confidence that this group with do something about it than the previous regime.
 

DaveG

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I wasn't that high on the Grubauer possibility for the reasons that Kev just mentioned. Lehner and Mrazek on "prove it" deals after buying out Darling is a solution, I'm not sure that Gru is. Lehner's at least been a starter even if he flamed out in Buffalo. Trading for Varlamov or Schneider and signing someone to a prove it deal is a solution. Mrazek-Darling is throwing gasoline on a burning dumpster fire and hoping it fixes it by maybe causing it to burn itself out?

FWIW I'm already moving on to the hard stuff after killing a 6 pack of Fake News after this signing. Figured that was an appropriate named beer to drink to go with this "solution" to our goaltending situation. So... Kentucky mules or Dark & Stormy's? I'll let you guys pick my poison.
 

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