Value of: Petr Mrazek retained @ 50%
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Trading away Mrazek at this point, for Chicago, would be damning their young players to an even more miserable year than they're already experiencing.
At some point, you have to show that you're willing to try and win games. What message would it send to Bedard and co if they just announce that they want the team to lose every game this season?
At some point, you have to show that you're willing to try and win games. What message would it send to Bedard and co if they just announce that they want the team to lose every game this season?
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Well the coach is actively sabotaging the team and management seems to not care so yeah sure trade Mrazek while he’s hot.
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He has a stigma for some injury riddled years but he's been absolutely solid for awhile now. Without googling I'm willing to be he's top 5 in shots against and minutes played the last 2 seasons.
He'd be a great TDL acquisition OR a great trade him and get a nice return for Chicago. Eg. could they get a younger player that will align better with their future (which looks bright). Mrazek is like Larkin.. when the team gets good he'll be past his window.
My offer is Pickard + Jeff Skinner to the Hawks for him and I imagine a sweetener is needed. 2nd rounder?
He'd be a great TDL acquisition OR a great trade him and get a nice return for Chicago. Eg. could they get a younger player that will align better with their future (which looks bright). Mrazek is like Larkin.. when the team gets good he'll be past his window.
My offer is Pickard + Jeff Skinner to the Hawks for him and I imagine a sweetener is needed. 2nd rounder?
Value might be tough since most teams aren't going to look at Mrazek as their starter. Most teams don't pay a ton to upgrade their backup spots. Montreal retained 50% on Jake Allen (3.85 mil vs Mrazek making 4.25 mil) and got a conditional 3rd round pick that could get bumped up to a 2nd based on games played. It seemed fairly clear from the onset that the Devils were tabbing Allen as the backup for the upcoming season.
Ballpark goalie depth charts by division:
We'll see if Edmonton eyes a move. Blackwood may be a more attractive option than Mrazek, so you might not see a team make a move on Mrazek before Blackwood is traded. And then there's the perpetual John Gibson watch.
Colorado seems like the most likely buyer.
Tampa could probably use a backup upgrade, but Mrazek retained is probably still more expensive than what they'd want.
Carolina probably has enough of a cushion to wait out Andersen's injury but we'll see how that goes. Barring other injuries, not sure there'll be any buyers in the Metro.
Ballpark goalie depth charts by division:
We'll see if Edmonton eyes a move. Blackwood may be a more attractive option than Mrazek, so you might not see a team make a move on Mrazek before Blackwood is traded. And then there's the perpetual John Gibson watch.
Colorado seems like the most likely buyer.
Tampa could probably use a backup upgrade, but Mrazek retained is probably still more expensive than what they'd want.
Carolina probably has enough of a cushion to wait out Andersen's injury but we'll see how that goes. Barring other injuries, not sure there'll be any buyers in the Metro.
Underrated these last few years. I think he's a much better option than guys like Blackwood who have yet to even put together two years of consistent starting goalie play in their entire career - or guys like Gibson who have a higher cap hit and more recent questions.
If the Hawks were to retain - I think he becomes pretty damn valuable. A two-year deal (ie, two Cup runs) is a perfect contract length. And he's simply been a very good starter since day one in Chicago.
He's been my pick for the Avs for a while. No questions about ability or current play as a locked-in starter. Get him for two runs at the apple. No long-term commitment. Perfect.
If the Hawks were to retain - I think he becomes pretty damn valuable. A two-year deal (ie, two Cup runs) is a perfect contract length. And he's simply been a very good starter since day one in Chicago.
He's been my pick for the Avs for a while. No questions about ability or current play as a locked-in starter. Get him for two runs at the apple. No long-term commitment. Perfect.
Very close - 5th in shots faced and 9th in minutes since the start of last season.
It seems like there are two clear opportunities for teams to try him as their goalie between Colorado and Edmonton. Making a deal work though, I would imagine some cap would have to come back and then what is it that he is valued at? Maybe a second? Or maybe put playoff series wins into a contingent escalation where the pick goes up each round after the 2nd?
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Canes reunion could make sense but they won't do anything until there is more clarity on Freddie's recovery and closer to deadline. If he returns at full health well before the deadline as projected, the Canes won't make any moves in net. If there are setbacks or something else comes up with him (can never count it out with Freddie), then I think a play for Mrazek becomes a lot more likely if he's still available.
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I would probably have a heart attack if Mrazek returned to the Canes and was the starter in the playoffs. I'd have to buy a Necas Canes jersey!
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necas will be cold by that time, historical 72 point season incoming...
As a casual observer, it seems like Freddie is always a hairsbreadth away from being back on the IR.
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If you told me before the season started that he'd get 72 points.. I'd be thrilled!
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Don't want to trade him. He probably returns a 2nd at best and we have had plenty of those. It's not worth torching our stability as our young D is getting better and better. We're already a bottom 5 (at best) team with Mrazek so we get nothing from dealing him.
Sensible. The Hawks need stability more than more 2nd round picks.
Frankly at full retention (which makes him a bargain and a guy a lot of teams could afford), I think he’d fetch a late 1st. Allen with two springs left on his contract got a 3rd at the top of that round that could become a 2nd (unlikely though). That’s for a guy who was clearly a veteran backup and nothing more. Mrazek is light years better. Kuemper at age 31/32 got a late 1st and Timmins as a pure one run rental, as a veteran putting up good stats constantly behind a crap team (at the time).
But yeah, doesn’t seem removing him from the Hawks is going to help in the development of their younger guys or team development vision.
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So that's my argument.
Hawk's are finishing 5th with or without Mrazek.
Get something of value for the future because this season is a tank (on purpose).
You trade him.. get a top 5 pick and a good young player in return (not a 2nd)
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You don't trade him... get a top 5 pick.
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It ends after he loses in Game 7 against my Oilers! He's going on a RUN!and ends tomorrow
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Yeah I just think there’s a lot more involved into trying to turn around a losing culture than simple maths. Mrazek keeps the Hawks pretty competitive even if they come out on the losing side more often and he’s also going to be there next year.
I don’t think he’s untouchable but I get why Hawks fans aren’t ready to just liquidate him into “assets” or more young players at first offer…
If y'all are going to keep Mrazek can Edmonton trade for Soderblom please? No retention needed at that cap hit and he has similar underlying numbers.
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