Peter Chiarelli End Of Season Press Conference?

[BoldNewLettuce]

Every single decision this organization has made has backfired when it comes to changing management.

Every time they get better....they get much worse.

For that reason I'd stick with Chia. Plus....I don't mind his drafting.

 

[Captain Fantastic]

Where’s SpeedyTurtle!!!!!!

Chiarelli traded him for a 16th and a 33rd.

 

[Soundwave]

Chiarelli traded him for a 16th and a 33rd.

No it was the 33rd only. One for one. lol.

 

[Soundwave]

Every single decision this organization has made has backfired when it comes to changing management.

Every time they get better....they get much worse.

For that reason I'd stick with Chia. Plus....I don't mind his drafting.

When people say his drafting is so great, if you actually look at Boston's drafting from 2007-2014 ... there's really not much to speak of in rounds 2/3/4/5 there (same as the Oilers). His drafting prowess is seriously overstated here.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

lol at the people who still have faith in this clown GM thinking he's going to lead them out of the desert if they give him more time and keep following him.

You guys are being totally jobbed by this phony. I wonder if Mike Milbury had the same little group that was loyal to him in the Islanders days.

You mistake faith for organizational patience and ridicule other fans who don’t fall into lock step behind your opinion.

How many keyboards have you worn out whining incessantly on the forum here?

Maybe you should go picket Rogers Center during his press conference.

 

[Captain Fantastic]

It was neat having our own insider. Everyone went nuts when he posted something. Speedyturtle probably got ticked off from the team. Not us.. of course

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

When people say his drafting is so great, if you actually look at Boston's drafting from 2007-2014 ... there's really not much to speak of in rounds 2/3/4/5 there (same as the Oilers). His drafting prowess is seriously overstated here.

Yes, let’s look at the players he has drafted signed or traded for.

Drafted, traded for or signed:
Pasternak
Marchand
Bjork
Hienen
Kuraly
Chara
Krug
McQuaid
Miller
Grzelyk
Rask
Khudobin
12 players, over 50% of Boston’s current active playing roster
Drafted Hamilton leagues top goal scoring defenseman this year
Traded for
Signed or Traded for 12 players who were on Boston’s cup winning team who are not mentioned above.
1 Stanley Cup, 2 Finals, 1 Presidents Trophy, 2 conference titles, 4 division titles, and 7 playoff appearances

No — Chiarelli hasn’t done anything nor has any pedigree.... as per the Fire Chia Party Handbook.

 

[Soundwave]

You mistake faith for organizational patience and ridicule other fans who don’t fall into lock step behind your opinion.

How many keyboards have you worn out whining incessantly on the forum here?

Maybe you should go picket Rogers Center during his press conference.

Patience for incompetence isn't smart in my view.

You're doing the same thing you're slinging mud at others for, you're ridiculing people who are critical of the GM.

You're damn right people are critical of him. You think missing the playoffs 2/3 years with Connor McDavid (one of which he just scored 108 points in and won an Art Ross trophy) and trading away the potential Hart Trophy winner this year and passing on the Calder Trophy winner are just "little things" that were gonna go unnoticed in a hockey market?

Get real. This is absolutely Mike Milbury territory the Oilers are in.

 

[Soundwave]

Yes, let’s look at the players he has drafted signed or traded for.

Drafted, traded for or signed:
Pasternak
Marchand
Bjork
Hienen
Kuraly
Chara
Krug
McQuaid
Miller
Grzelyk
Rask
Khudobin
12 players, over 50% of Boston’s current active playing roster
Drafted Hamilton leagues top goal scoring defenseman this year
Traded for
Signed or Traded for 12 players who were on Boston’s cup winning team who are not mentioned above.
1 Stanley Cup, 2 Finals, 1 Presidents Trophy, 2 conference titles, 4 division titles, and 7 playoff appearances

No — Chiarelli hasn’t done anything nor has any pedigree.... as per the Fire Chia Party Handbook.

He did not draft Marchand or trade for Rask. Gorton did (in the same week no less). Again half of you guys don't even know what he's done. Pasta is a good find, but why do we need to employ Chiarelli and all his downsides for that? We have Keith Gretzky who ran that draft and I'm fine with him staying.

The rest are role players, that's all Chia does ... he is OK at adding role players/grinders and a few odd good adds here and there.

That's not worth the downside that he brings of losing major trades and not being able to negotiate a contract to save his life. That's not a sensible trade off.

 

[Aceboogie]

Every single decision this organization has made has backfired when it comes to changing management.

Every time they get better....they get much worse.

For that reason I'd stick with Chia. Plus....I don't mind his drafting.

The Oilers should try the radical idea of hiring someone has the merit for the job. Not an ex Oiler or guy who was just fired

 

[Del Preston]

It was neat having our own insider. Everyone went nuts when he posted something. Speedyturtle probably got ticked off from the team. Not us.. of course

I'm not sure if St's account survived when the forums were upgraded late last year. There were some accounts that got messed up and either weren't recognized by the new boards or the passwords got reset. If you put '@' and then start typing 'Speedy', four names show up and none are St's account.

 

[rboomercat90]

Keith Gretzky being given interim GM role would be the odds on favorite, and that would be the proper move until you find a proper fit as full time GM. The assistant GM taking over in an interim role when the past GM has been fired is generally the standard way of doing stuff.

They aren’t hiring an interim GM in the middle of April. That’s a move you make if you fire a GM during the season.

 

[Soundwave]

They aren’t hiring an interim GM in the middle of April. That’s a move you make if you fire a GM during the season.

That happens for a week or two in many cases while a team conducts a longer search, I'm not talking about making Keith Gretzky GM for like 4 months.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Patience for incompetence isn't smart in my view.

You're doing the same thing you're slinging mud at others for, you're ridiculing people who are critical of the GM.

You're damn right people are critical of him. You think missing the playoffs 2/3 years with Connor McDavid (one of which he just scored 108 points in and won an Art Ross trophy) and trading away the potential Hart Trophy winner this year and passing on the Calder Trophy winner are just "little things" that were gonna go unnoticed in a hockey market?

Get real.

Loose “facts”, the outright lies and the bombast found here in the echo chamber is what I criticize. It’s all in the Fire Chia Party Handbook. Dominate nearly every thread and the entire forum with Fire Chia.

There is a Fire Chia thread being started with a new title on a daily basis.

Your welcome to have an opinion. As am I. But nowhere have I said you were wrong. I have stated my own opinion to which myself and others who think another year is a logical patient approach to which we get run over here.

A joke of a forum this has become.

 

[Soundwave]

Loose “facts”, the outright lies and the bombast found here in the echo chamber is what I criticize. It’s all in the Fire Chia Party Handbook. Dominate nearly every thread and the entire forum with Fire Chia.

There is a Fire Chia thread being started with a new title on a daily basis.

Your welcome to have an opinion. As am I. But nowhere have I said you were wrong. I have stated my own opinion to which myself and others who think another year is a logical patient approach to which we get run over here.

A joke of a forum this has become.

You are the one spreading misinformation and lies. Chiarelli did not draft Marchand and did not trade for Rask.

That is a flat out lie. Jeff Gorton did.

Jeff Gorton selected Phil Kessel, Brad Marchand, and Milan Lucic in the 2006 NHL draft and then traded for Tukka Rask the same week.

If you want to make an honest argument, then make it, but this is just being flat out deceiving and angry at people when confronted by facts.

If he is such a great GM, you wouldn't need to be on this board in the first place defending him. His track record would do that for him very clearly just from his moves as Oilers GM (Boston stuff wouldn't even have to matter).

 

[belair]

lol at the people who still have faith in this clown GM thinking he's going to lead them out of the desert if they give him more time and keep following him.

You guys are being totally jobbed by this phony. I wonder if Mike Milbury had the same little group that was loyal to him in the Islanders days.

Lol at the people who were convinced the 2015 Oilers were a shoe-in for success with the mess that franchise was in. Keep living in that little world where a team with no goaltending, no defense, no coaching, no prospects, no confidence and no cap space was poised for greatness by the prospect of simply 'outscoring' its opponents led by the generational talent that fell into its lap.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

You are the one spreading misinformation and lies. Chiarelli did not draft Marchand and did not trade for Rask.

That is a flat out lie. Jeff Gorton did.

If he did not then I stand to be corrected. I looked up the years he GMd and players who were signed drafted or traded for in that time period.

But your cynical repetitive bullshit that he has done nothing is pure garbage.

 

[belair]

It was neat having our own insider. Everyone went nuts when he posted something. Speedyturtle probably got ticked off from the team. Not us.. of course

Nope. Couldn't be you guys. Incessant negativity is generally a turn on for most people.

 

[Soundwave]

If he did not then I stand to be corrected. I looked up the years he GMd and players who were signed drafted or traded for in that time period.

But your cynical repetitive bull**** that he has done nothing is pure garbage.

I'll call out incompetent management all day as long as this fraud is employed here.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

I'll call out incompetent management all day as long as this fraud is employed here.

Go ahead, it’s your opinion.
But you cannot say he did not do anything in Boston and the team’s success happened in spite of him. That is flat out wrong.

But remember others are entitled to their opinion of what should happen moving forward as well.

Your “LOL to those who think he should stay” is a horse shit comment as it denigrates others and it would be nice to see the moderators deal with this kind of garbage because it goes on far too much here now.

 

[Soundwave]

Look Chia's misfires aren't "small" ones, Hall going Hart trophy mode, missing the playoffs with McDavid at 108 points, passing on Barzal to chase Reinhart instead, spending $42 million a forward that scores 1 goal in 46 games ... these are moves that would get a GM a ton of heat in *Arizona* lol.

In Edmonton ... a hockey crazed market? You kidding me? He deserves all the vitriol he gets here and then some. What did you think was going to happen here? This would just blow over and people wouldn't notice?

If anything he is lucky he is in the Edmonton market, if he did this same thing in Toronto or Montreal, it would be 100x worse for him. There would be billboards up already and the media would stir fry his ass to a charboiled finish. It would be worse in Vancouver. In Calgary, you would start to see empty seats in the arena (lots of them) by February.

Yeah people are going to be negative. It's normal. The extent of failure from this management justifies it. These are not "little mistakes". These are Milbury-esque failings.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Look Chia's misfires aren't "small" ones, Hall going Hart trophy mode, missing the playoffs with McDavid at 108 points, passing on Barzal to chase Reinhart instead ... these are moves that would get a GM a ton of heat in *Arizona* lol.

In Edmonton ... a hockey crazed market? You kidding me? He deserves all the vitriol he gets here and then some. What did you think was going to happen here? This would just blow over and people wouldn't notice?

If anything he is lucky he is in the Edmonton market, if he did this same thing in Toronto or Montreal, it would be 100x worse for him. There would be billboards up already and the media would stir fry his ass to a charboiled finish.

Yeah people are going to be negative. It's normal. The extent of failure from this management justifies it. These are not "little mistakes". These are Milbury-esque failings.

Don’t qualify your denigrating others with the right to be negative.

You have a right to be “negative”

You do not have a right to insult others opinions in the process.

That sir, is being an asshole.

 

[Soundwave]

Don’t qualify your denigrating others with the right to be negative.

You have a right to be “negative”

You do not have a right to insult others opinions in the process.

That sir, is being an *******.

You are the one throwing around the "Chia handbook" insults, so maybe take a look around that glass house.

All the negativity towards Chiarelli is valid and expected quite frankly.

If this was Toronto or Montreal it would be magnitudes worse for him, Edmonton is the most forgiving market in Canada, as evidence by some people still supporting him here even though in three years he's made more mistakes than a lot of GMs make in 10-15 years.

So no, I don't feel sorry for him at all, if anything he is getting off a bit easy.

McDavid is missing the playoffs by almost 20 points while being the Art Ross winner, Hall might win the Hart trophy, Barzal the Calder, just on optics alone ... you can't even write something uglier than this. This is not going to just "blow over". Sorry.

 

[rboomercat90]

That happens for a week or two in many cases while a team conducts a longer search, I'm not talking about making Keith Gretzky GM for like 4 months.

The team isn’t hiring an interim GM in the middle of April to search for a permanent GM. If they need to hire a GM they’ll just hire one. Everybody knows how this team conducts its business except for you, I guess. Lowe was pushed upstairs and Tambellini was immediately hired. Tambellini was fired, Mactavish was promoted from within. Chiarelli was hired while Mactavish still held the position. Even Eakins was hired when Krueger was still the head coach.

If something happens it will be resolved quickly, not because the team isn’t aware there are other ways to do things but because this is how this team prefers to do it. I’ve got no idea if anybody is getting fired tomorrow or not but the one thing I’m certain of is that if somebody does, the replacement has already been hired.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Apparently Gregor and Strudwick think something’s up too. Just going by twitter but it sounds like it’s more likely to be coaching related.

My guess is assistant coaches are gone