Speculation: Pesce could get 7AAV?

[HockeyVirus]

James Mirtle was on the JD Bunkis podcast and was talking about Pesce price being somewhere around 7M. This seems high to me, what do others think?

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[SnS]

Not shocked whatsoever.

 

[I am Canadian]

Orlov getting 7.75M after a 36P season definitely set this up. Top 4 defenders will make 6M minimum moving forward probably.

 

[BonMorrison]

Sounds about right and it'll be good for like the first half of the contract.

 

[Captain Mountain]

The cap is going up 4.5 mil. Teams have been planning for this offseason since the pandemic escrow agreement. There are many teams with serious spending potential, including some that need to spend to reach the cap floor. RD are always in demand, and Pesce is well regarded around the league.

This is not even a little bit surprising, it feels like some fans have gotten used to flat cap free agency where top UFAs had to sit around waiting for teams to create cap space. That's not the standard and we're not in the same environment.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Sooo... does that make Matt Roy an 8 million dollar D?

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Orlov getting 7.75M after a 36P season definitely set this up. Top 4 defenders will make 6M minimum moving forward probably.

That was a conscious choice to trade term for a high cap hit.

Pesce likely is a $7 mil+ D on a short-term deal too, if he wants it.

 

[TheBeard]

I think Brett gets 7 per on a bad team (like SJ), but would probably take 6.25-6.5 on a contender.

 

[Leafs87]

Comparable to all the other D and how the market is 7 is fair and I’d rather give him 7 than guys like Orlov

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

That's alot of Pesos.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

I like Pesce, and his absence on the back end was a big reason Carolina lost to the Rags.

That said, his skating has already noticeably started to decline, against heavy forechecking teams he would have trouble skating it out of trouble in the dzone.

I hope he gets his big UFA payday, and I don't hope this happens obviously, but that contract could get ugly real quick

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Sabres fan- would absolutely pay that as long as there’s a written guarantee that he doesn’t Scandella it and just stop trying in Buffalo.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Comparable to all the other D and how the market is 7 is fair and I’d rather give him 7 than guys like Orlov

Comparing to Orlov doesn't make any sense, unless Pesce signs a short term deal. Canes/Orlov traded off higher AAV for very short 2 year term and not much money upfront.

 

[Dion TheFluff]

that's wild. Some team will be regretting that in short order after it's signed... Hopefully it's not my team.

 

[Bust]

that's wild. Some team will be regretting that in short order after it's signed... Hopefully it's not my team.

I’d rather overpay a competent shutdown RHD by 1-1.5m than have an underachieving “playoff style” winger at 3-5mil.

 

[BKarchitect]

As pointed out the Orlov comp is not a comp at all. 2 years versus term.

Anybody would sign Pesce at 7x2.

7x7 or even 7x5 is a completely different proposition - especially for a guy who looks liked he’s showing wear and tear and coming off his least impactful year in a while.

 

[SlavinAway]

Pesce has lost a step but we found out real quick that he was still providing vital defense to us, especially on the PK, when he went down in the playoffs.

I'm curious if he fares a lot better at this point in a system that isn't man-to-man. Regardless of any complaints Canes fans have had about him he's still excellent net front and at preventing zone entries.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Sabres fan- would absolutely pay that as long as there’s a written guarantee that he doesn’t Scandella it and just stop trying in Buffalo.

I’m not sure that would age well even if he was still “trying.” Canes fans seem to widely agree that Pesce lost a step this past season, and that’s in a UFA year where he’s playing for what might be his last big contract, so he should’ve been highly motivated.

 

[LeafalCrusader]

Girlfriend gonna get paid.

 

[Beerz]

Sabres fan- would absolutely pay that as long as there’s a written guarantee that he doesn’t Scandella it and just stop trying in Buffalo.

11 mill for Dahlin

8.25 for Power

7 for Pesce

4 mill for Samuelsson

3.3 for Clifton

Whatever Byrum gets next year... maybe 5 or 6 million.

That could be approaching 40 mill spent on defense alone.

 

[HockeyVirus]

I’m not sure that would age well even if he was still “trying.” Canes fans seem to widely agree that Pesce lost a step this past season, and that’s in a UFA year where he’s playing for what might be his last big contract, so he should’ve been highly motivated.

I think every fan base claims the player is not very good anymore when they leave their team. There are also lots of examples of guys refinding their game after changing teams.

Brodie was advertised as cooked and he gave us 3 1/2 years of elite defensive play.

11 mill for Dahlin

8.25 for Power

7 for Pesce

4 mill for Samuelsson

3.3 for Clifton

Whatever Byrum gets next year... maybe 5 or 6 million.

That could be approaching 40 mill spent on defense alone.

Cap will be 100M in 1-2 years, that is perfectly doable.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I don't think he's hitting 7

6+ absolutely but not 7.

If he was a free agent next year when the cap is 93 million maybe bur not at 88
Not quite.

Not unless Chicago or Utah make a godfather offer.

 

[spockBokk]

$7M coming off a 13pt season…don’t think there’s a chance he sniffs that, but who knows during silly season

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

The cap is going up 4.5M and expected to go up significantly again the following year, this isn't at all surprising

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

The whole "lost a step" is being overplayed a bit IMO. His xGA/60 was 2.35 (Skjei was 2.38, Slavin was 2.23). Pesce and Skjei took on the toughest competition as well.

We saw how much we missed him come playoff time.

That said, he's always had a bit of a choppy stride so not a smooth skater and he has had a lot of injuries over his career. He's a smart player who thinks the game quickly and reads and reacts very well, which has been a trademark of both him and Slavin since they entered the league.