Rumor: Per Kevin Weekes. Shesterkin rejects NYRs $88M / 11M AAV offer

[TheNumber4]

Lol 11.5M. Love it, this will be bad for the Rags.

 

[Romang67]

If he is worried most about financial gain, I believe he probably wants more a 3-4 year deal and hope he doesn't regress till after so he can get 2 UFA deals before his career ends.

Same issue as above. If he signs a 4 year contract, he'll become a UFA as a 33 year old (almost 34 when his new deal would start). The motivation for him to sign a short contract and hope for another big deal is probably near non-existent. There is just almost no way he'll make a combined $88M over 8 years if he does that.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Lol 11.5M. Love it, this will be bad for the Rags.

Yea it will be terrible in 5 years when the cap is up another 20M lol. What ever will we do, gush I guess we will have to get rid of 8M elite defenseman Trouba now.

 

[odin1981]

Same issue as above. If he signs a 4 year contract, he'll become a UFA as a 33 year old (almost 34 when his new deal would start). The motivation for him to sign a short contract and hope for another big deal is probably near non-existent. There is just almost no way he'll make a combined $88M over 8 years if he does that.

While likely true, he could be betting on himself, or his agent is trying to posture for a higher deal.

 

[TGWL]

Yea it will be terrible in 5 years when the cap is up another 20M lol. What ever will we do, gush I guess we will have to get rid of 8M elite defenseman Trouba now.

Bad investment or not, when the cap goes up everybody eats. Fans seem to forget that even middle 6 players enjoy the cap raise, not just great goalies and top players.

 

[Soundwave]

Lol 11.5M. Love it, this will be bad for the Rags.

With a rising cap, I doubt it.

Cap will be 108-110 million in a few years based on the NHL's revenue. They are bringing in a lot more money sine pre-COVID but the players haven't been able to touch it because of the CBA which is due to expire.

 

[Laus723]

That .5 seems like it’s necessary on principle alone lol

 

[Soundwave]

When the cap goes up everybody eats. Fans seem to forget that even middle 6 players enjoy th4 cap raise, not just great goalies and top players.

Not necessarily.

You see this is more matured cap leagues like the NBA (which has had a salary cap for much longer) ... you have top end superstar players getting massive deals, then you have young players with high upside getting locked in to big money deals, but often pretty good players get squeezed out in the middle and end up taking less to player on various teams.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Bad investment or not, when the cap goes up everybody eats. Fans seem to forget that even middle 6 players enjoy the cap raise, not just great goalies and top players.

That's fine, that 11.5M for the best goalie will only look better and better as more players eat.

 

[Romang67]

While likely true, he could be betting on himself, or his agent is trying to posture for a higher deal.

Betting on himself just feels like such an off thing to do in this case. We aren't talking about an RFA picking between a bridge or a relatively low paying long term deal. Betting on himself gives him... maybe $12-13M over 3-4 years? Then he'd need another $10M per year for another 4-5 years as a goalie in his mid 30s. It just doesn't seem likely, even if he DOES look great until his contract expires.

I'd guess that the agent is trying to get another $1M per year in there. $8M in total is nothing to scoff at.

 

[TGWL]

Not necessarily.

You see this is more matured cap leagues like the NBA (which has had a salary cap for much longer) ... you have top end superstar players getting massive deals, then you have young players with high upside getting locked in to big money deals, but often pretty good players get squeezed out in the middle and end up taking less to player on various teams.

But you haven't seen this in the NHL. And I don't see that changing anytime soon.

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

Next year and the year after might be a little tight cap-wise. After that, no real problems as long as the cap keeps seeing growth

 

[HockeyVirus]

Lol 11.5M. Love it, this will be bad for the Rags.

Would take Shesterkin at 11.5 over Nurse / Skinner at 11.5 combined next year.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Would take Shesterkin at 11.5 over Nurse / Skinner at 11.5 combined next year.

uh, yeah!

 

[Soundwave]

But you haven't seen this in the NHL. And I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Actually you are seeing it.

There's a bunch of cheaper mid-tier vets available on the market almost every summer (Jeff Skinner, Chris Tanev, Stamkos not being able to get the money he wanted from Tampa, Marchessault, Utah/Arizona getting a player like Sergachev for not much, Montreal getting Laine for basically nothing, along with young players like Adam Boqvist that wash out available for basically nothing).

 

[jetsforever]

Hellebuyck's 8.5M AAV is looking like a steal compared to this guy

 

[Frank Drebin]

Hellebuyck's 8.5M AAV is looking like a steal compared to this guy

Both great goalies but don't like either contract at their ages.

Helle will be paid like a starter till the year he turns 38 and shesty will be paid like a franchise player till the year he turns 37.

But as we saw this spring, even a bad contract like Bob's paid dividends when it mattered.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Hellebuyck's 8.5M AAV is looking like a steal compared to this guy

Maybe. We won't really know until the players are in the mid 30s and if either of them are stilling living up to their contracts.

 

[elmaco]

Bad investment or not, when the cap goes up everybody eats. Fans seem to forget that even middle 6 players enjoy the cap raise, not just great goalies and top players.

You're delusional if you think the Rags will get even near the same value from middle6 plugs to what Shesterkin brings.

 

[ViD]

Hellebuyck's 8.5M AAV is looking like a steal compared to this guy

He’s terrible in play offs

 

[TGWL]

You're delusional if you think the Rags will get even near the same value from middle6 plugs to what Shesterkin brings.

You're delusional if you think I said anything remotely close to that.

 

[Hierso]

NYR needs him more than he needs NYR.

Lundqvist 2.0(?) but let's hope they win a ring this time. Always love to see a long suffering franchise win (30 years is long suffering in my book).

 

[Soundwave]

Hellebuyck's 8.5M AAV is looking like a steal compared to this guy

Shesterkin hasn't crapped the bed in the last two playoffs. If you're going to pay big dollars anyway you might as well get someone who can perform not just in the regular season.

Last two years in the post season:

.931 and .926 for Shesterkin, .886 and .864 for Hellebuyck.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

If he refuses that and gets more it continues to show the problems with the current salaries in the NHL. All due respect to him, he is a great goalie but he has no Cups and has only 1 Vezina and no Cups or other accolades.

Who gives a f*** about cups Darcy Kuemper has one and he should be in the AHL

 

[KrisLetAngry]

My guess was 11.5 to 12. Get it done Rangers