Rumor: Per Kevin Weekes. Shesterkin rejects NYRs $88M / 11M AAV offer

[ColbyChaos]

Everyone knows he is the only ranger on that team worth a damn in the post season. He can get whatever he wants from that team.

 

[On The Prowl]

Its hard to judge the value of a goalie, a lot of the stats are heavily influenced by the defensive system and players in front of them. Shesterkin is probably one of the few where you accept he is a top-echelon goalie, and I still dont think I would pay him a contract of 11m+ a year.

 

[TS Quint]

We’ll see how that tandem performs when the games matter. Shesterkin is rocking a .930 SV% in the playoffs and is a huge asset the rangers can depend on.

Leafs goaltending has never been their problem outside Samsonov.. Their offense they pay all that money to is impotent in the playoffs.

 

[Slapshottothehead]

Who else is gonna pay 11 million a year for a goalie???

 

[StreetHawk]

Who else is gonna pay 11 million a year for a goalie???

That's $11 mill per over 8 years and no way a team is paying $11 mill when he is 37. His deal is more front loaded and drops over time to where it would be in around $6-7 mill for that 8th year. So, he would need a low $80 mill offer as a UFA over 7 years to get him at least $11.5 mill or higher on an AAV. Then when he's done that deal, he'd have to find a 1 year deal at over $5 mill to come out even.

Klingberg passed on an 8 year deal, but once he hit the market, he was limited to 7 years, so harder to get that same money.

 

[Sol]

Everyone knows he is the only ranger on that team worth a damn in the post season. He can get whatever he wants from that team.

That means nothing. Rangers were in the same position with Lundqvist and they still couldn’t win a cup. If you can’t win with a Lundqvist caliber goalie then you’re delusional to spend on Shesterkin when you’re pretty much tying your entire hands on being a goalie only team.

Many teams have won with decent goalies. There’s absolutely no reason why the rangers should tie an anchor to themselves over a goalie.

 

[Whoot Whoot]

Methinks he shoulda took that money

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I love how so many repeat that asking for like 12-13M handicaps an ability to build a team. How does this compute?

There are players who are going to ask for like 15 or 16M in another year or two. There are active bad hockey players that make nearly 10M. There's no consensus way of how to build a team. The salary cap is constantly rising.

It's become "hipster" to rail against goaltenders because they're voodoo or something. The data and analytics proves out that you rarely win a cup nowadays without at least league average starting goaltending and often it's with elite goaltending. I don't think the data proves what all these self-proclaimed very smart people want you to believe.

It's bad group think at this point. An elite goaltender is worth the same as any elite NHL'er. Whatever they want because there are not very many elite players in hockey and they are hard to acquire. You don't pass up the opportunity to sign them when you can to haggle over a few pennies on a dollar to instead take a punt on slightly improving your 3rd line or 3rd pair or something.

 

[AirGut]

That means nothing. Rangers were in the same position with Lundqvist and they still couldn’t win a cup. If you can’t win with a Lundqvist caliber goalie then you’re delusional to spend on Shesterkin when you’re pretty much tying your entire hands on being a goalie only team.

Many teams have won with decent goalies. There’s absolutely no reason why the rangers should tie an anchor to themselves over a goalie.

They drafted AND developed him. They invested years in patiently waiting for him to come over and it ended up paying off because he's been as good as they originally thought he could be. The real reason why the Rangers should tie an anchor to their franchise tender? If they don't they might very well be spending the next 10 years finding a starter and they're right back into the dark ages like how it was before Lundqvist. Which I know is exactly what most people want to see happen these days.

I'd rather pay the goalie you got and deserve than take a gamble on no names like some of these other teams do because hopefully, maybe, possibly, it'll lead to a surprise cup win.

 

[Zeeker]

I love how so many repeat that asking for like 12-13M handicaps an ability to build a team. How does this compute?

There are players who are going to ask for like 15 or 16M in another year or two. There are active bad hockey players that make nearly 10M. There's no consensus way of how to build a team. The salary cap is constantly rising.

It's become "hipster" to rail against goaltenders because they're voodoo or something. The data and analytics proves out that you rarely win a cup nowadays without at least league average starting goaltending and often it's with elite goaltending. I don't think the data proves what all these self-proclaimed very smart people want you to believe.

It's bad group think at this point. An elite goaltender is worth the same as any elite NHL'er. Whatever they want because there are not very many elite players in hockey and they are hard to acquire. You don't pass up the opportunity to sign them when you can to haggle over a few pennies on a dollar to instead take a punt on slightly improving your 3rd line or 3rd pair or something.

Rangers fans that want to jettison the likes of Shesterkin and Panarin and build the team around randos like Will Cuylle will be in for a big surprise if they get their way