Rumor: Per Kevin Weekes. Shesterkin rejects NYRs $88M / 11M AAV offer

[Kryten]

Its weird seeing the goalie rate increase with the worst crop of star goalies since the 80s

 

[Alexei Yashvalev]

Shrug, it's less as a percentage of the cap than Bobrovsky got.

 

[Skolman]

Nope, he's a 29-year-old goalie.

Literally his point.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Seems to me Igor wants to see how this season plays out, if they don't go far enough and the TDL wasn't a big help, he's likely signing elsewhere.

 

[Section 104]

Ultimately Prince Ygor will get something like $12.5 million for 8 years. MSG is still selling a lot of seats for quite a few quatloos and they usually pay their players well. Any guesses what the cap will look like in 2030?

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Ultimately Prince Ygor will get something like $12.5 million for 8 years. MSG is still selling a lot of seats for quite a few quatloos and they usually pay their players well. Any guesses what the cap will look like in 2030?

To pay a goalie that much for that long is quite the risk and that cap structure there is going to be very ugly. I get he wants his pay day, he should get his value, but if he's also wanting to win a Cup, if 11M isn't enough, then whatever more he wants doesn't really work with also wanting a cup.

 

[Fatass]

Seems to me Igor wants to see how this season plays out, if they don't go far enough and the TDL wasn't a big help, he's likely signing elsewhere.

If total money is what he’s after than the 8th year, only the Rangers can offer, makes a big difference. If the current number is 88 million then when he’s a UFA any acquiring club would need to hit 90 for the increased total. That’s an AAV of just shy of 13. Definitely not going to happen.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Its weird seeing the goalie rate increase with the worst crop of star goalies since the 80s

Not really...

If there are less elite goalies than the truly elite goalies that do exist are more in-demand.

 

[HelmutCool]

If a team has a very good defense, they can win the cup with a not so good goalie. Vegas for example did it. Offensive teams and those organization who are still trying to figure out how to become successful, a top goalie is important. When Panthers signed Bob, they didn't know how to win and they didn't have a core in place to make it happen but that huge/too expensive contract gave them credibility. Of course, Bob hasn't always played on the Vezina level but that is another thing.

A contract likes Saros' $7.5m AAV would be better for an organization like NYR that has a good roster. I understand, however, why Shesterkin wants to get paid. His current 4 year deal doesn't pay what he deserves and he will be 30 yo. next year. Hence, it's now or never to get that big "retirement contract".

Bobrovsky's 10 mil would be 11.35 if we compared 2019 and 2025 salary caps. Maybe Igor signs for $11.5m or even $11.25m AAV. Somehow I can't imagine seeing them offering him $12m. Otherwise some other players need to settle for earning a sweatsuit set and few rolls of insulating tape.

I dont even mind if he gets 11.5M ×8. But for gods sake do not give him full NMC and make it "buy out proof"
When rangers core gets old in 3-4 years you want to get rid of the remaining years.

 

[Fatass]

I dont even mind if he gets 11.5M ×8. But for gods sake do not give him full NMC and make it "buy out proof"
When rangers core gets old in 3-4 years you want to get rid of the remaining years.

What club will sign any UFA goalie to a seven year term at over 13 mil AAV?
11 x 8 is an incredibly good offer when considering what the AAV becomes if it’s spread over seven years. Shisterkin is getting bad advice from his agent if he’s turning down 88 million.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

What club will sign any UFA goalie to a seven year term at over 13 mil AAV?
11 x 8 is an incredibly good offer when considering what the AAV becomes if it’s spread over seven years. Shisterkin is getting bad advice from his agent if he’s turning down 88 million.

Ottawa and Montreal, for starters.

It's really as simple as "What teams are up and coming and have their core players locked or on ELCs?" Because those teams can absorb the cap hit for a few years while the cap inflates.

That's essentially Anaheim/Buffalo/Columbus/Detroit/Montreal/Ottawa/Utah.

 

[beowulf]

If he refuses that and gets more it continues to show the problems with the current salaries in the NHL. All due respect to him, he is a great goalie but he has no Cups and has only 1 Vezina and no Cups or other accolades.

 

[HelmutCool]

Ottawa and Montreal, for starters.

It's really as simple as "What teams are up and coming and have their core players locked or on ELCs?" Because those teams can absorb the cap hit for a few years while the cap inflates.

That's essentially Anaheim/Buffalo/Columbus/Detroit/Montreal/Ottawa/Utah.

Carolina could absorb it. Losing Andersson and Burns and Orlov deals ending. (+cap increasing)

 

[Fatass]

Ottawa and Montreal, for starters.

It's really as simple as "What teams are up and coming and have their core players locked or on ELCs?" Because those teams can absorb the cap hit for a few years while the cap inflates.

That's essentially Anaheim/Buffalo/Columbus/Detroit/Montreal/Ottawa/Utah.

13+ AAV for a goalie? No they won’t. No team will.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

13+ AAV for a goalie? No they won’t. No team will.

OK bud sure they wont.

Literally provided examples of half a dozen teams that could do it with little to no movement and just repeat "NO WAY NOBODY WOULD!" lmao.

Carolina could absorb it. Losing Andersson and Burns and Orlov deals ending. (+cap increasing)

No way dude! Nobody would ever do it! NOBODY!

 

[Wierzbowski426]

Yes this is the way.

 

[Chardo]

Admittedly just picked an ‘80s year. Good catch!!! LOL

However, in 1986, the correct ignition timing would be 4 degrees before top dead center.

 

[Fatass]

OK bud sure they wont.

Literally provided examples of half a dozen teams that could do it with little to no movement and just repeat "NO WAY NOBODY WOULD!" lmao.



No way dude! Nobody would ever do it! NOBODY!

Suggesting a club could, because they have cap space, is not they will. No club will allocate 13 mil AAV to a goalie. Shisterkin is getting terrible advice from his agent, or he’s just an arrogant fool. 88 million is beyond fair.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Suggesting a club could, because they have cap space, is not they will. No club will allocate 13 mil AAV to a goalie. Shisterkin is getting terrible advice from his agent, or he’s just an arrogant fool. 88 million is beyond fair.

You can keep claiming nobody would ever do it and yet every year a GM proves that there's always one who chases the top tier UFA lol.

Pretty sure the reigning Stanley Cup Champs were backstopped by a goalie they did this with...

NOBODY!

 

[TGWL]

We don't know if they're far apart on money, if the money is close and he's not budging, or if the trade protection didn't meet his request through-out the right years for the way Drury was structuring his contract. After the Trouba situation, maybe Drury was reluctant to give a clause that lasted through-out most of the contract. Or maybe the translator is bad at math...

 

[These Are The Days]

Seems to me Igor wants to see how this season plays out, if they don't go far enough and the TDL wasn't a big help, he's likely signing elsewhere.

But where would he go? With the exception of LA, given the special treatment athletes give NY in seemingly every sport, you'd swear every other place is some hole in the ground that's so boring you'd swear God was punishing you by making you live there. That or it exists to show the world how great NY and LA are. And it doesn't make sense for him to go to the Kings given their state. And some other team isn't gonna have a whole lot more money to throw.

I feel like he's hustling the NYR for every last penny because this otherwise makes no other sense

 

[Fatass]

You can keep claiming nobody would ever do it and yet every year a GM proves that there's always one lol.

Pretty sure the reigning Stanley Cup Champs were backstopped by a goalie they did this with...

NOBODY!

Would ever is different than will now. No team, will now, allocate 13 mil AAV to a goalie. The Rangers are offering 11 AAV over eight years. 88 million. 11.5 x 8 is 92. Over seven years, the max term available to a club signing a UFA, the AAV jumps to 13 mil.

 

[Hookslide]

Hope rags give shesty 13 million. Bruins fan.

Yes and that will drive up Swaymans trade value.

No goalie is worth that much, insane rejection.

No half season goalie is worth 8.3 mil either.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Just like last time.. the rich teams like the Rangers, Habs and Leafs that aren't likely to lose gate revenue when they hike prices are also going to be the ones handing out bloated deals like this one. It's going to be next to impossible for Columbus, Anaheim, Calgary and Winnipeg to continue with the cap going straight up due to madcap contracts for goalies of all people.

tough break, I mean what are we suppose to do just stay in a flat cap to help out teams like those? either make money or get relocated. fans need to care more, just as simple as that

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Would ever is different than will now. No team, will now, allocate 13 mil AAV to a goalie. The Rangers are offering 11 AAV over eight years. 88 million. 11.5 x 8 is 92. Over seven years, the max term available to a club signing a UFA, the AAV jumps to 13 mil.

If you keep repeating the same shit, maybe it'll eventually be true.