centipede2233
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Mario sold at the right time, smart business man. Was here for the cups and sold when he saw the writing on the wall.
How was what I said defending him?
It was more giving up and acceptance of the suck.
He had nowhere but down to go after that.
Stumbled upon this tweet from 2017. Crazy that it's literally been only downhill since then
This is the part I don't get. Why give up and accept we suck before finding out what this team can do with a different coach first?How was what I said defending him?
It was more giving up and acceptance of the suck.
I agree that there's a real possibility that the Pens waited too long and it no longer matters if they fire Sullivan or not.You have me convinced.
Add Mario, Gretzky and Coffey and a new coach and all their problems would be solved. Hell, dig up Gordie Howe and Bobby Orr too. The names will win with the right coach.
No need to even have a playoffs. Just hand them the Cup.
I don't care if they fire Sully or keep him. Because it is simply rearranging chairs on the sinking Titanic. Sully is a problem. But far from their biggest. Age and limited talent and no assets to change that is the real issue.
We are Pirates level now. It would feel better to finish outside of the bottom third of the league. But no matter what, the team is going to be a losing one.
I have said before. We owe Crosby and the Core who stayed to try.I agree that there's a real possibility that the Pens waited too long and it no longer matters if they fire Sullivan or not.
Having said that, when a team like the Caps that is in a very similar boat and is still competing it feels f-ing insane to not even see what would happen with a new coach behind the bench. Maybe it's the same with a new coach, but if it is, so what? The Pens are already bad. They have nothing to lose by firing Sullivan.
Their days of being a top tier stanley cup contender are over, but it wouldn't shock me if they could at least compete for a playoff spot with a new coach behind the bench.
I got sick watching the game.
Glass got sick during the game?
Good! I'm glad. Because he f***ing sucks.
Glass got sick during the game?
Clearly the players not trying hard enough.Gotta wonder what Sullivan thinks the problem is
I don’t think you’d have to wait until the TDL with a new coach, I mean ideally Sullivan gets shit on even more by the Canucks and then fire him before the Wild and Ducks games as they head home. They have 3 days off where they can hire someone like Nelson to take over, have a couple of practices.It’s Johnston level bad now. I’ve been very conservative on Sullivan, but it’s beyond time. If a new coach doesn’t move the needle by the deadline sell anything you can
Sid’s a proud dude and wants to stay with Malkin and Letang…and I get that, but I can’t imagine this is what he wants, and this doesn’t strike me as a team that’s a couple pieces away unless a lot changes. Start with the coach and feel it out for the rest of the season
The same front office that likely has to wait for Fenway’s permission to fire Sullivan since its been known for a while that he has their support and a lot of control with the roster?
Yep, if only the response by the front office is the same…
Oh it’s about as dumb as you think it is with Sullivan…Gotta wonder what Sullivan thinks the problem is
“Well, it’s concerning because we just aren’t good enough right now,” coach Mike Sullivan said outside of a quiet dressing room. “We didn’t play hard enough. We didn’t play together as a group. We weren’t good enough.”
“We didn’t have the puck enough,” Sullivan said. “We’ve got to hang on to pucks more.”
Glass was suffering from Mycoachisadipshitis.
Glass got sick during the game?
Last Saturday, two hours before the Penguins left Pittsburgh for this trip, this is what Jarry said: “Obviously, it’s good for me. I get to see my family. Being on the West Coast, you don’t get to see your family very often. Only get to see my parents once or twice a year. It’ll be a nice little reset to see my family and to spend time with them.”
The Penguins sent Jarry back to Pittsburgh one day before playing in Edmonton, where he won the Memorial Cup in 2014, and two days before playing in Vancouver. Sullivan said it was part of the plan to send Jarry back to Pittsburgh halfway through the trip. Perhaps Jarry wasn’t aware of that when he was speaking with the media last Saturday.
Either way, it’s a strange story.
All time Sully move right there.And then what?
We had Malkin leading the league in scoring and Sullivan in his ultimate wisdom broke that line up.
It’s absolutely wild people defend this jackass.
How the f*** were people actually supporting the Glass, Lizotte, Beauvillier additions this offseasonGood! I'm glad. Because he f***ing sucks.
Only Sullivan could look at this roster and put Cody f***ing Glass at 3RW over Puljujarvi.
I honestly feel bad for Dubas, I know a lot here want to hate him for not firing Sullivan, but I mean, it was already well known a month before they hired Dubas that Sullivan had the Hammer with FSG’s full support.Am glad I fell asleep before puckdrop and missed this garbage.
f*** this team. f*** FSG. f*** Kyle Dumbass. And f*** Mike Sullivan
We’re beyond a joke
I honestly feel bad for Dubas, I know a lot here want to hate him for not firing Sullivan, but I mean, it was already well known a month before they hired Dubas that Sullivan had the Hammer with FSG’s full support.
If anything, he’s an idiot for knowing that and still taking the job and then stuck in a role where he doesn’t have the autonomy they claimed he did.
Don’t get me wrong, he should have remained the Dir of Hockey Ops and hired a GM, for him to take that job was idiotic, but I also wonder if everyone else knew the situation and just said no, in the end you gotta be able to see a situation that will f*** you over and avoid it, Kyle is an idiot for running right towards it.
At best, we can hope that he’s making his case right now to FSG that a coaching change is necessary.
I mean he had the bollocks to go to Shanahan and change the offer to asking for autonomy and money. He was also asking for more autonomy to do his actual job rather than having to go through Shanahan who had veto power, which made sense when he was a rookie GM, but after that no. Ironically he ended up in a similar situation in Pittsburgh but now has an underling hold more power lol, I am sure he isn’t happy about that right now even if he sings Sully’s praises likely part of his contract, haha.Even if he miraculously grows a pair and says to FSG “fire this f***ing bum”, I doubt they’d listen.
At least not until the $$ stops flowing in.
I mean he had the bollocks to go to Shanahan and change the offer to asking for autonomy and money. He was also asking for more autonomy to do his actual job rather than having to go through Shanahan who had veto power, which made sense when he was a rookie GM, but after that no. Ironically he ended up in a similar situation in Pittsburgh but now has an underling hold more power lol, I am sure he isn’t happy about that right now even if he sings Sully’s praises likely part of his contract, haha.
So I think he as it in him, he just needs to f***ing do it.
It’s funny to think about the hate he gets from the Leafs, Shanahan was always the bigger issue but Dubas got all the heat for it. How are they going to be mad at a GM that only did moves that Shanahan approved, anything else he would get vetoed. So unless he had an idea Shanahan liked, it wasn’t going to happen. He was hired to execute Shanny’s vision. I remember some rumour about him wanting to get Hagel from the Hawks and was vetoed, Hagel then was picked up by the Bolts and has put up 155pts in 192 games.
Also…
So I think he has it in him, he just looks like he’s back in a very similar situation, hopefully this time he’s learned to push back harder.