Post-Game Talk: Pens vs Oilers

KrisLetAngry

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Well Blom .920 in a loss. I thought it'd be a lot worse for you tonight.

I predicted a 7-2 game.

We got a 4-0 and that's worse. We let that defense shut us out.

If you wanted to stay Crosby you should have taken more money.

2 more games on this road trip. As a pens fan I hate rooting for losses but 2 more losses and maybe Sullivan gets fired. He needs to go coach another team and probably win a cup. But his message and system is stale.
 

Luigi Lemieux

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Ideally they fire Sullivan soon, and if the Pens still suck they blow it up at the deadline and then the draft. If Sid and company want out let them go and get picks and prospects. There's no way this is watchable for another 3 years.
 

Jaded-Fan

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You have me convinced.

Add Mario, Gretzky and Coffey and a new coach and all their problems would be solved. Hell, dig up Gordie Howe and Bobby Orr too. The names will win with the right coach.

No need to even have a playoffs. Just hand them the Cup.

I don't care if they fire Sully or keep him. Because it is simply rearranging chairs on the sinking Titanic. Sully is a problem. But far from their biggest. Age and limited talent and no assets to change that is the real issue.

We are Pirates level now. It would feel better to finish outside of the bottom third of the league. But no matter what, the team is going to be a losing one.
 

Sidney the Kidney

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How was what I said defending him?

It was more giving up and acceptance of the suck.
This is the part I don't get. Why give up and accept we suck before finding out what this team can do with a different coach first?

This is like owning a car that's 25 years old that's not starting any longer. Maybe try and change the battery first to see if that fixes things before taking the car to the scrap yard?
 

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You have me convinced.

Add Mario, Gretzky and Coffey and a new coach and all their problems would be solved. Hell, dig up Gordie Howe and Bobby Orr too. The names will win with the right coach.

No need to even have a playoffs. Just hand them the Cup.

I don't care if they fire Sully or keep him. Because it is simply rearranging chairs on the sinking Titanic. Sully is a problem. But far from their biggest. Age and limited talent and no assets to change that is the real issue.

We are Pirates level now. It would feel better to finish outside of the bottom third of the league. But no matter what, the team is going to be a losing one.
I agree that there's a real possibility that the Pens waited too long and it no longer matters if they fire Sullivan or not.

Having said that, when a team like the Caps that is in a very similar boat and is still competing it feels f-ing insane to not even see what would happen with a new coach behind the bench. Maybe it's the same with a new coach, but if it is, so what? The Pens are already bad. They have nothing to lose by firing Sullivan.

Their days of being a top tier stanley cup contender are over, but it wouldn't shock me if they could at least compete for a playoff spot with a new coach behind the bench.
 

Bishop7979

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Jaded-Fan

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I agree that there's a real possibility that the Pens waited too long and it no longer matters if they fire Sullivan or not.

Having said that, when a team like the Caps that is in a very similar boat and is still competing it feels f-ing insane to not even see what would happen with a new coach behind the bench. Maybe it's the same with a new coach, but if it is, so what? The Pens are already bad. They have nothing to lose by firing Sullivan.

Their days of being a top tier stanley cup contender are over, but it wouldn't shock me if they could at least compete for a playoff spot with a new coach behind the bench.
I have said before. We owe Crosby and the Core who stayed to try.

So, although I know that what I said above is true, I agree.

And they have banked three Cups so I am not mad at them.
 
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Smasher

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Will probably take a 10-game losing streak before they even consider firing Sullivan.

This team is bad. With a different coach it could be mediocre. Whatever. It's back to highlights. Not sure why I paid for this shit once again.
 

AuroraBorealis

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It's a sign guys. The kid is sending out an S.O.S.
 
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Honour Over Glory

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Lol, brutal.

It’s Johnston level bad now. I’ve been very conservative on Sullivan, but it’s beyond time. If a new coach doesn’t move the needle by the deadline sell anything you can

Sid’s a proud dude and wants to stay with Malkin and Letang…and I get that, but I can’t imagine this is what he wants, and this doesn’t strike me as a team that’s a couple pieces away unless a lot changes. Start with the coach and feel it out for the rest of the season
I don’t think you’d have to wait until the TDL with a new coach, I mean ideally Sullivan gets shit on even more by the Canucks and then fire him before the Wild and Ducks games as they head home. They have 3 days off where they can hire someone like Nelson to take over, have a couple of practices.

Then I would say the clock is ticking on the roster moves, I would give it about 10 games or so before Dubas should get to work to move out players that the new coach hasn’t been able to reverse the Sullivan effect with.

Why wait for more games? This isn’t like they made the playoffs and were out again in the first round and then started slow and the GM saw they needed a change, like it happens with a lot of teams, this is a team that has missed the playoffs for 2 seasons, hasn’t won a round in the playoffs since 2018 and technically couldn’t even win to make the playoffs vs the Habs so really 3 playoff misses total. I think 10 games of being shit is more than enough considering all of that to just say yeah thanks for the 2 cups 8yrs ago, bye.


Yep, if only the response by the front office is the same…
The same front office that likely has to wait for Fenway’s permission to fire Sullivan since its been known for a while that he has their support and a lot of control with the roster?

One can only hope they see how wrong they were to do that and tell Dubas to lay down the hammer and boot his ass.
Gotta wonder what Sullivan thinks the problem is
Oh it’s about as dumb as you think it is with Sullivan…

“Well, it’s concerning because we just aren’t good enough right now,” coach Mike Sullivan said outside of a quiet dressing room. “We didn’t play hard enough. We didn’t play together as a group. We weren’t good enough.”
“We didn’t have the puck enough,” Sullivan said. “We’ve got to hang on to pucks more.”

I mean, they dunked on your ass with 50 shots and didn’t allow them to have a shot for 20mins, yeah you didn’t have the puck enough because your system sucks, Sully.

I hate to even quote that loser, but he had the quote and I have to cite the source.

Glass was suffering from Mycoachisadipshitis.


PS - He has played very poorly and no one will refute that, we all agree on it, but this really sucks for anyone. Especially when you’re struggling with your game and everyone on social media is shitting all over you with a lot of comments that are personal attacks about him as a person rather than his game being bad right now…but yeah.

Last Saturday, two hours before the Penguins left Pittsburgh for this trip, this is what Jarry said: “Obviously, it’s good for me. I get to see my family. Being on the West Coast, you don’t get to see your family very often. Only get to see my parents once or twice a year. It’ll be a nice little reset to see my family and to spend time with them.”

The Penguins sent Jarry back to Pittsburgh one day before playing in Edmonton, where he won the Memorial Cup in 2014, and two days before playing in Vancouver. Sullivan said it was part of the plan to send Jarry back to Pittsburgh halfway through the trip. Perhaps Jarry wasn’t aware of that when he was speaking with the media last Saturday.

Either way, it’s a strange story.

Seems like this was never the plan as Sullivan keeps bullshitting everyone. Also, funny how the biggest twat (Yohe) that called him “unprofessional” is now acting like he gives a shit.


Weird I don’t know why the links posted twice.
 
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