Post-Game Talk: Pens trash the Habs

[SEALBound]

Regarding the game, I'm not putting too much stock into whipping the lowly Habs as their goaltending was absolutely atrocious. I think this was merely a team having a bad game and we capitalized all night. That said, there was a different feel to the game last night where I felt things were "clicking" at a higher degree than normal, particularly with Rust, Rakell, and Sid. The plays they were able to make are plays they haven't been making on the regular. I don't think if that's because the Habs flat out suck, if they just had an overly good night, or if it's a sign that things are starting to click for them.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Sometimes you gotta turn the difficulty down to "story mode" for a bit just to get back into the swing of things.

I'll accept my Jack Adams converted into cash, thanks.

 

[SEALBound]

Sometimes you gotta turn the difficulty down to "story mode" for a bit just to get back into the swing of things.

I'll accept my Jack Adams converted into cash, thanks.

500 in vCash coming your way. Don't bet it all in one place now.

 

[HandshakeLine]

500 in vCash coming your way. Don't bet it all in one place now.

I plan to bet it all on the Washington Generals. They’re due!

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

Had a blast watching that one.

Wild that of 27 potential ways to get on the scoresheet, Geno ended up with 0.

 

[SEALBound]

Had a blast watching that one.

Wild that of 27 potential ways to get on the scoresheet, Geno ended up with 0.

God and his line looked atrocious all night. I like Glass and all but I think Sully needs to switch him and DOC.

 

[vodeni]

God and his line looked atrocious all night. I like Glass and all but I think Sully needs to switch him and DOC.

Bunting and Tomas were with Geno, those two can not help with possession

 

[HandshakeLine]

Bunting has been pretty bad now for longer than he’s been good, we should have been paid to take him in retrospect.

Great job, Kyle.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Bunting has been pretty bad now for longer than he’s been good, we should have been paid to take him in retrospect.

Great job, Kyle.

Bunting's been better than Malkin since November 1.
7 points in last 6.
Idk, weird time to whine about him.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Bunting's been better than Malkin since November 1.
7 points in last 6.
Idk, weird time to whine about him.

They both look bad, but we didn't give up futures in a trade to acquire Malkin. Hope that helps.

Anyhow, I'm sure there's a stat for whatever Bunting's bringing to the ice. Science knows nothing but progress, all life is quantifiable.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

They both look bad, but we didn't give up futures in a trade to acquire Malkin. Hope that helps.

Didn't give up shit. We got Brunicke out of that, who is gonna end up better than the late 1st people wanted.
And if Bunting keeps this up he's very tradeable at the deadline.

It was 20 games of Guentzel. I'd take Brunicke alone for that, every time.

 

[Ryder71]

Didn't give up shit. We got Brunicke out of that, who is gonna end up better than the late 1st people wanted.
And if Bunting keeps this up he's very tradeable at the deadline.

It was 20 games of Guentzel. I'd take Brunicke alone for that, every time.

Bunting went through a lull but of late he's played pretty well. His only crime is he's not Jake! Along with Brunicke and the other pieces it was a good trade for a guy who left Carolina and they ultimately got nothing. The Jury is still out on Pono and Koivunen. The same with Brunicke but he impressed big time at TC. I know Jesse thought highly of him.

 

[Andy99]

Bunting keeps going offsides and not finishing chances…low offensive IQ player who’s not much better than DOC in the top six…he’s much better on the PP…we need to find better top six options bc our LW roster is probably the worst in the league

 

[HandshakeLine]

Didn't give up shit. We got Brunicke out of that, who is gonna end up better than the late 1st people wanted.
And if Bunting keeps this up he's very tradeable at the deadline.

It was 20 games of Guentzel. I'd take Brunicke alone for that, every time.

I wasn't saying keep Jake, ya dingus.

Anyhow, here's hoping we trade Bunting because lord knows I hate to see a mildly interesting player get Sullivan'd into what we got now.

Anyhow, reported AB's mention of Guentzel for not posting in the Around the NHL thread. Let that be a warning to you all.

 

[Ryder71]

Bunting keeps going offsides and not finishing chances…low offensive IQ player who’s not much better than DOC in the top six…he’s much better on the PP…we need to find better top six options bc our LW roster is probably the worst in the league

DOC's a complete waste! Bunting isn't! Visually and statistically one is a capable top six wing the other has proven he isn't.

And DOC doesn't finish off ANY chances as he never scores!

 

[Wattsburgh]

Am I the only fan of Bryan Rust on here? Yeah I wish he was making more closer to 3.5 mil but guys like him come playoff time are much needed. Keyword being playoffs, I know.

 

[Ryder71]

Am I the only fan of Bryan Rust on here?

I like Rust. I just accept him for the player he is.

 

[Wattsburgh]

I like Rust. I just accept him for the player he is.

I also respect how he chose the Penguins over his hometown team in the Redwings. Very Orpik like. I value loyalty.

 

[Andy99]

Am I the only fan of Bryan Rust on here? Yeah I wish he was making more closer to 3.5 mil but guys like him come playoff time are much needed. Keyword being playoffs, I know.

I like Rust, I just begged us not to re-sign him for six years at the time lol..ideally he’s a L3 player who PKs and plays PP2 in his 30s and not a top line candidate lol

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Am I the only fan of Bryan Rust on here? Yeah I wish he was making more closer to 3.5 mil but guys like him come playoff time are much needed. Keyword being playoffs, I know.

3.5M? That would be a complete steal.
He's got 76 points in his last 86 games. 40 goals.

I like Rust, I just begged us not to re-sign him for six years at the time lol..ideally he’s a L3 player who PKs and plays PP2 in his 30s and not a top line candidate lol

He should 100% be traded this summer if he continues producing like this. Some team desperate for scoring will bite.
If he were to stay, either he regresses and kills his value, or he continues playing like this and it doesn't make any difference for a team that is not ready to win.
Best to just unlock the cap space.

 

[Andy99]

3.5M? That would be a complete steal.
He's got 76 points in his last 86 games. 40 goals.

He should 100% be traded this summer if he continues producing like this. Some team desperate for scoring will bite.
If he were to stay, either he regresses and kills his value, or he continues playing like this and it doesn't make any difference for a team that is not ready to win.
Best to just unlock the cap space.

Honestly, if I was Dubas, I’d ask him to consider waiving his NMC if there’s a team who wants him at the deadline for a good return…can always threaten to trade him to a worse team after July 1 lol

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Honestly, if I was Dubas, I’d ask him to consider waiving his NMC if there’s a team who wants him at the deadline for a good return…can always threaten to trade him to a worse team after July 1 lol

Yep. The more you wait, the more you risk a drop-off. Waiting is pointless if the value is not gonna go up if you do. In his case it won't.

 

[Zbynek]

It was 20 games of Guentzel. I'd take Brunicke alone for that, every time.

I'm tired of this numbering 20 games thing to minimize Guentzel's utility and potential of his trade return.

Contenders pay big money for great to elite players to stock up for their postseason run, even if it ends up only being 4 games.

Stop this madness of "Carolina ended up with nothing!" No they didnt, they threw the kitchen sink at it, and that was 100% the right decision for them. Just as we did with Hossa.

If the Pens were in the same position I'd be pissed if we didn't do the same.

I'm tired of this numbering 20 games thing to minimize Guentzel's utility and potential of his trade return.

Contenders pay big money for great to elite players to stock up for their postseason run, only if it ends up being 4 games.

Stop this madness of "Carolina ended up with nothing!" No they didnt, they threw the kitchen sink at it, and that was 100% the right decision for them. Just as we did with Hossa.

If the Pens were in the same position I'd be pissed if we didn't do the same.

Also, you're totally insane if you think Brunicke will ever come to even half of Jake Guentzel's value as a player

It's great that we have more than 1 prospect in our pool for once but don't compare these two players.

 

[Zbynek]

Honestly, if I was Dubas, I’d ask him to consider waiving his NMC if there’s a team who wants him at the deadline for a good return…can always threaten to trade him to a worse team after July 1 lol

The problem is there's at least a 75% chance Dubas is convinced this team is ready to make a Cup run

 

[AuroraBorealis]

I'm tired of this numbering 20 games thing to minimize Guentzel's utility and potential of his trade return.

Contenders pay big money for great to elite players to stock up for their postseason run, even if it ends up only being 4 games.

You may be tired of it, but it's a super important consideration.
This trade was not the same as dealing Jake at a good cap hit with term locked in at prime ages.
This trade entailed either re-signing him to massive AAV until he's 38, or letting him walk for nothing. Both those things affect value.

Stop this madness of "Carolina ended up with nothing!" No they didnt, they threw the kitchen sink at it, and that was 100% the right decision for them. Just as we did with Hossa.

If the Pens were in the same position I'd be pissed if we didn't do the same.

Where did I say this today? Nowhere.
But yeah, I wouldn't make that trade in the Canes position unless him re-signing was guaranteed. They gave up a lot.

Also, you're totally insane if you think Brunicke will ever come to even half of Jake Guentzel's value as a player

It's great that we have more than 1 prospect in our pool for once but don't compare these two players.

No one knows this, but I wouldn't be so quick to write him off. He looked very strong in camp. I see no reason he can't become a top-4 D regular in the future.
He's been strong in Juniors this year and would have played for team Canada if he was healthy.
Just because we haven't had high end prospects in a long time doesn't mean that will never change.
I'm not comparing them anyway... It's apples and oranges. Jake's full value didn't apply in this trade, for the reasons I mentioned. So even if we got nothing else in return, I'd be fine with Brunicke likely becoming a good player for Pittsburgh for many years in exchange for 20 games of Guentzel.

I would also say it's statistically unlikely that Carolina's late 1st would become better than Brunicke. He is very much looking like a 1st rounder caliber player. Late 1sts fail to become top-sixers, top 4-D or starting goalies all the time.
The way people talk about this trade...it's like they think the Pens missed out on guaranteed quality. Ridiculous.