Salary Cap: Pens Summer Salary Thread: Dull days of August... Oooo! A trade!

[Honour Over Glory]

FTFY

Their stance of having 2 - 3rd lines is just atrocious and what leads to having a very costly 4th line. It's just a bunch of meh players jumbled together.

I can't even come up with a suitable term for that bottom six.

You mean 2 - 4th lines. Sullivan has no f***ing idea what a 3rd line looks like, or a 2nd line or a 4th line. Well a 4th line he does know, he spent his entire f***ing career as one.

 

[Rudy Russo]

My biggest issue with Kindergarten Kyle is that he was never hired to be the General Manager of this team, he was hired to be the President of Hockey Operations, something he wanted on the Leafs but Shanahan didn't really care for. He was supposed to hire a GM and then decided to take on the job himself, I thought ok maybe a year, but now heading into year 2, he's still the GM and there doesn't seem to be any sign of him wanting to take a step back into the role he was hired for and hire someone to do the job he was supposed to hire someone for.

I'm sure Spezza is being groomed to be the next GM of the penguins.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I'm sure Spezza is being groomed to be the next GM of the penguins.

So you're saying it can get worse....lol

 

[SEALBound]

I really want Rust f***ing traded so we don't have to keep seeing the dumb f***ing iteration of Doc-Crosby-Rust as a unit because it will bleed goals and Sullivan will f*** over Malkin's line to fix it and I'm f***ing over it with seeing that for almost 20yrs.


We all want them to try, but under a new coach that has some fresh new ideas and coaching philosophy vs the ignorant we have been stuck with for almost a decade.

Could be worse. Could be talking about Pascal Dupuis still. I don't hate Rust with Sid. Of all the things on the roster, Rust-Sid, Bunting-Geno, and Pettersson-Karlsson are at the bottom.

I don't mind Karlsson here, again, it's the f***ing coach.

Sullivan's hard on of a roster would be:

O'Connor, Crosby, Rust
Bunting, Malkin, Rakell
Beauvillier, Hayes, Glass
Acciari, Eller, Lizotte/Puljujarvi

Cody sucks at faceoffs, he's really not that great at all. I see them trying him at RW to free him up potentially to give that a try, maybe a battle between Lizotte, Pooljuce, and Glass.

Puustinen and the others will be told they have to fight for a spot and can do well, but really, they aren't veterans so f*** them - Sullivan probably.

That's actually a decent guess for the opening night roster barring a surprise at camp and any additional trades. It's better than what we iced last year on opening night (well at least the bottom 6 is).

So you're saying it can get worse....lol

It seems like higher profile player GMs come in, make a mistake, then level out and turn out decent.

Yzerman was meh and then pulled off cups, Sakic had a couple wiffs then rounded out to good form, same with Drury. I'd have to check on Briere.

There would be worse candidates. Plus, Dubas is young. He might be here awhile.

 

[HandshakeLine]

For a guy that can barely fit in Wheeling.. Did they owe us or something

Hextall's long game pays off, that's why he traded for Granlund!

 

[BusinessGoose]

Hextall's long game pays off, that's why he traded for Granlund!

Ok but when does JR come and take Jarry?

 

[The Old Master]

Not one of those players brought back picks with them.

Anything to scapegoat what they are doing. As far as I know, you are not rebuilding with a bunch of 2nd and 3rd rounders.

You can call it what you want, but that's not rebuilding.

well, you could bundle them with our first to move up and get your high pick so you won't need to be real bad to get that high pick. maybe.

 

[The Old Master]

Point is we clearly didn't move upwards overall. I mean, the moves are there to make it interesting (not exciting).

The team is built like a house of cards...just waiting for Sully to toddler swing it to the ground!

out side of getting a new coach there was no way we were going to be better next year, and it's why i wanted to keep next years top pick.

 

[The Old Master]

For the past 15 years or so, the Pens only had current roster players to bargain with. When your current roster players start sucking or aging, your available ammo is reduced.

we should have been moving them out instead of letting them walk though.

 

[Pancakes]

My biggest issue with Kindergarten Kyle is that he was never hired to be the General Manager of this team, he was hired to be the President of Hockey Operations, something he wanted on the Leafs but Shanahan didn't really care for. He was supposed to hire a GM and then decided to take on the job himself, I thought ok maybe a year, but now heading into year 2, he's still the GM and there doesn't seem to be any sign of him wanting to take a step back into the role he was hired for and hire someone to do the job he was supposed to hire someone for.

I think Dubas always wanted to be both pres and gm. I think any words he said publicly to the contrary were lip service.

 

[Malkinstheman]

I think Dubas always wanted to be both pres and gm. I think any words he said publicly to the contrary were lip service.

I'm not so sure about that tbh. It seems like he wanted only Pridham for the Gm spot. When Pridham said no he took the spot himself.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I think Dubas always wanted to be both pres and gm. I think any words he said publicly to the contrary were lip service.

Possibly but he was initially hired as Pres of Hockey Ops and was to search for a GM. That was as the original hire and intention. He didn't seem to really look at wanting to be a GM again after Toronto but then later pivoted to taking the GM role as well. Absolute asshat.

 

[Fordy]

idk i never believed dubas would be hiring a gm, from day 1, it seemed like posturing from all sides and that the intent was to have him play both roles

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

This article made me laugh.

“We’re coming back. And we’re going to have a pretty similar roster. Same thing for the coaching staff up, for the most part,” said Nedeljkovic. So I thought we had a good run at the end. And I think if we’re a little bit more consistent throughout the year, then there’s no doubt in my mind that we can be a playoff team, and I think we can surprise a lot of people (who) maybe count us out.”

Yes, that's why no one thinks you'll be any good.

 

[Ginormousthumbs]

This article made me laugh.




Yes, that's why no one thinks you'll be any good.

 

[Zbynek]

Cody Glass?

This org will do anything and everything but solve the PP.

 

[Tom Hanks]

God, idk, can we just refer to him as Cody? Or CG? I see shit like "Glass has some talent" and I'm still so traumatized from the past that my reaction is "SHUT UP DAN, NO HE DOESNT."

Tanner “Can’t even get a shot off on an open net in a Cup Final” Glass

My biggest issue with Kindergarten Kyle is that he was never hired to be the General Manager of this team, he was hired to be the President of Hockey Operations, something he wanted on the Leafs but Shanahan didn't really care for. He was supposed to hire a GM and then decided to take on the job himself, I thought ok maybe a year, but now heading into year 2, he's still the GM and there doesn't seem to be any sign of him wanting to take a step back into the role he was hired for and hire someone to do the job he was supposed to hire someone for.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

My biggest issue with Kindergarten Kyle is that he was never hired to be the General Manager of this team, he was hired to be the President of Hockey Operations, something he wanted on the Leafs but Shanahan didn't really care for. He was supposed to hire a GM and then decided to take on the job himself, I thought ok maybe a year, but now heading into year 2, he's still the GM and there doesn't seem to be any sign of him wanting to take a step back into the role he was hired for and hire someone to do the job he was supposed to hire someone for.

Dubas would be making the major decisions regardless of his title.

It's the same in Vancouver. Patrick Allvin may by the GM, but Jim Rutherford's fingerprints are all over the Canucks.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Just occurred to me that Armstrong did what he did with those offer sheets to f*** over Bowman.
That's pretty wild. A GM is willing to mess up his own team to make life harder for another GM.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Ok but when does JR come and take Jarry?

Trust in the plan, my good goose.

(There Is no plan.)

Cody Glass?

This org will do anything and everything but solve the PP.

Clearly we need more 3Cs

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Dubas would be making the major decisions regardless of his title.

It's the same in Vancouver. Patrick Allvin may by the GM, but Jim Rutherford's fingerprints are all over the Canucks.

Yeah in this case the chowdah stained finger prints on this team are all Sullivan.

 

[HandshakeLine]

 

[The Old Master]

Cody Glass?

This org will do anything and everything but solve the PP.

so, you believe they think there is something wrong with it?

 

[Ulf5]

Just occurred to me that Armstrong did what he did with those offer sheets to f*** over Bowman.
That's pretty wild. A GM is willing to mess up his own team to make life harder for another GM.

I don't see how the compensation messes up Armstrong's team in anyway if the Oilers fail to match. 2nd and 3rd (?) seem fair compensation for the players he'd be acquiring. Possibly a bit of an underpay on the open market.

 

[chethejet]

Look, Dubas has the balance of building the prospect pool left basically barren with the all in approach the last 15 years. to me he is building the farm with the trades and adding younger players as we go. While the Pens with a decent PP, improved play from Jarry, Graves and healthy Rakell this year, Pens can be a good team. Lots of things clicking but still with Karlsson, Sid, Malkin and adding size and some grit, at least it will be a nice change from the last couple.