Post-Game Talk: Pens/Isles Game 1: Home Ice + Good Matchup all for nothing

[Pens x]

Pens are 1-10 in the playoffs over the last 11 games and 0-4 in OT playoff games since we beat the Sens in game 7 years ago.

Sully
Is
Trash

 

[Empoleon8771]

Varlamov would suck ass here.

Based on.....what, exactly?

Is this another thing where you just make a claim without any backup, and just say it's true because?

All I’m seeing from you is we should’ve spent more money on goaltending because.

It's almost like you haven't watched the Penguins since 2017 or something.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I mean they're 1-10 spanning several goaltenders.

This team is just old, beat, lacks motivation and isn't getting much help to correct any of that from behind the bench. I'm not "blaming" the coach. That's too easy. Just like blaming goaltending is too easy. I'm just saying this team doesn't have IT anymore.

What can ya do?

I don't know if I agree with that. This game didn't feel like the losses versus Montreal or the losses the last time we played the Isles. The Pens played well for the most part and did enough good things in order to win.

Not to overstate it, but this was a game that is on the goalie. You swap goalie performances and the Pens win this game. Sorokin didn't "gift" the Pens any freebies. Jarry arguably gifted the Isles 4.

We'll see how they respond in Game 2. But based off of today, I think the Pens had a better showing than they have in any of the recent playoff debacles.

 

[radapex]

Yeah, Bishop is the best example IMO but there are plenty you can throw out. Varlamov and Lehner are also really good examples to mention.

There are more options than paying an assload for Price vs going cheap with someone like Jarry or Murray. There's an entire middle ground of solid and reliable starters that can fit in this team's cap structure.

Ullmark is the guy I'd target, assuming the Pens are interesting to getting another G (Jarry & DeSmith are both still under contract). If you could run Ullmark + Jarry for a combined 7mil, that's a pretty strong tandem. Ullmark could be an absolute beast if he could stay healthy, but we'd have Jarry anyway if he weren't able to.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Yeah, Bishop is the best example IMO but there are plenty you can throw out. Varlamov and Lehner are also really good examples to mention.

There are more options than paying an assload for Price vs going cheap with someone like Jarry or Murray. There's an entire middle ground of solid and reliable starters that can fit in this team's cap structure.

Or we can just let Jarry get his experience and not give up after his first year as starter. I believe he was .918 from the end of his bad start til the end of the year. All those goalies you mentioned got their chance in the playoffs. Now Jarry is gonna get his.

We don't know what we have yet. It's too soon to make those decisions.

 

[Lukin1978]

When was the last time we had a goaltender steal a series for us?

 

[Gurglesons]

When was the last time we had a goaltender steal a series for us?

when was the last time a goaltender stole a series from us?

 

[Pens x]

This Pens kind of deserve to lose after not canning Sully for the Habs fiasco series loss.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

When was the last time we had a goaltender steal a series for us?

Would say Fleury vs Washington 2017.

 

[HandshakeLine]

If we need a goaltender to steal the series for us, then the window's arguably closed.

 

[Andy99]

speaking of goaltending, if anyone is watching Knights-Wild, the goaltending duo has been stellar....

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

If we need a goaltender to steal the series for us, then the window's arguably closed.

I'd be satisfied with our goalie just not blowing games for us.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

This Pens kind of deserve to lose after not canning Sully for the Habs fiasco series loss.

We may have missed the playoffs altogether under a different coach. Instead we finished in 1st.

 

[BeatenLikeRentedMule]

I don't know, I'm not even sure I give a shit either way, win or lose. I just want to be entertained. This team hasn't been entertaining in the playoffs for years. Whether it's Sullivan being a dipshit, Murray/Jarry shooting the team in the foot, or the forwards coming up empty, it's been a quiet past few trips to the post season. I don't think my pulse cracked 80 today.

I'd like to see things gel and the team make a run, but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't get a big kick out of this team flaming out again in the 1st round and the chaos that'd ensue.

I can't see management keeping Sullivan if this is another 1st round exit. Maybe they should bring in his mentor, Torts. That would make things interesting here.

 

[chethejet]

Pens got a lesson in playoff hockey. Goal tending was just not good enough today. But goalies can be better with getting better as the series goes along. That is my hope anyway. But man Sully just has a roster of forwards and D men that may not be as good as needed in the playoffs. We will see but Sully to me is on the clock to a degree since he wants what he wants. Hextall and Burke like the team but were limited to make the kinds of changes they wanted. If a veteran seasoned team just can't start to win games here, that will make for a interesting off season. It is how they play and how they win or lose that will go along way with roster moves as the core is possibly done being cup contenders as currently constructed.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Point to one single thing that he could have adjusted today that would make up for Jarry shitting the bed

The power play.

I also think he should be able to get this team to focus when they need to. That's all I'm asking from him, I'm not asking him to take responsibility for Jarry reverting to early season form or ZAR forgetting how to play or even Marino forgetting how to skate.

 

[Pens x]

We may have missed the playoffs altogether under a different coach. Instead we finished in 1st.

1-11 in the last 3 playoffs so far...and counting.

Dont get sand in your eyes since your head is buried in it.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Is Mitch Korn suddenly coming here? Because that is why Lehner and Varlamov have been good in NYI.

Maybe I have my timeline off, but haven't we started to see bad goalie performances more regularly ever since the Pens switched from Bales to Buckley?

 

[Andy99]

We may have missed the playoffs altogether under a different coach. Instead we finished in 1st.

different game in the POs though and one Sully hasn’t been successful at since 2017

 

[madinsomniac]

Pens did play well overall, but Jarry had a lot of trouble with uncontested shots. That can't happen.

But the good thing is he has no history of that and typically has a good glove hand.... as long as he isn’t hurt and this is just a rust thing im sure it will be isolated

 

[Gurglesons]

Maybe I have my timeline off, but haven't we started to see bad goalie performances more regularly ever since the Pens switched from Bales to Buckley?

yes. I’d argue that is more imperative than getting a new goalie.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

We'll see how they respond in Game 2. But based off of today, I think the Pens had a better showing than they have in any of the recent playoff debacles.

I'm sorry to cherry pick... but that's a low bar lol -- but fair enough.

Also, I faded a bit for most of the first and second, but didn't we seem to be falling back into bad early season habits as far as structure goes?

Oh yeah.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I'd be satisfied with our goalie just not blowing games for us.

I don't think Jarry blew the game (note: I don't think he played at all good either), he just didn't give us an advantage. OT would have ended pretty quick on that Huberdeau shot if he hadn't gotten a piece of it, for example. But you can't piss away 15 minutes of OT in the playoffs the way the Pens did either and expect to make it anywhere, even if we had won.

 

[Finesse]

Not surprised.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

1-11 in the last 3 playoffs so far...and counting

He also won 9 series in a row.

I agree he's not getting it done in the playoffs anymore, but I could also easily see the Rangers in over us with a different, worse coach. Would that have been preferable?