Salary Cap: Pens '24-'25 Salary Thread: The Crosbicles Volume XIX

[Khelandros]

I think it was a pretty big f*** up by both the Rangers and the Canucks to not chase Jake, even if he was only a rental. Those two teams were primed for deep playoff runs with a Jake addition imo.

What do you consider "deep playoff runs"?

Rangers were in the Eastern Final, and the Canucks got bounced due to goaltending.

 

[Rudy Russo]

Some Rangers fan in the comments said Drury blew it last year by not trading Kaapo and Othmann for Jake.

Can you even imagine how happy we would have been if Dubas had gotten that package?

+ Add Ruhwedel and you have a deal.

 

[Turin]

Some Rangers fan in the comments said Drury blew it last year by not trading Kaapo and Othmann for Jake.

Can you even imagine how happy we would have been if Dubas had gotten that package?

That's a good package, but I am pretty down on Kakko's ceiling and Koivunen, Brunicke, Ponomarev is equal or (more likely) better than Othmann in value.

 

[Pancakes]

That's a good package, but I am pretty down on Kakko's ceiling and Koivunen, Brunicke, Ponomarev is equal or (more likely) better than Othmann in value.

I don't know that Kakko is ever gonna be the star they envisioned but he is a strong two-way player with great possession numbers.

 

[SEALBound]

That's a good package, but I am pretty down on Kakko's ceiling and Koivunen, Brunicke, Ponomarev is equal or (more likely) better than Othmann in value.

Assuming the structure of the deals were around "a roster player and a collection of prospects/picks", I think the Carolina deal still may have been preferable.
Kakko vs Bunting is going to be tough. I don't think either has the edge there in terms of play but Kakko may get a slight bump due to age. I don't think Kakko does what Bunting did last year after the TDL. This year? Who knows. History suggests Bunting is the better player just via stats alone.

While I am high on Othmann, we have to be realistic about that as well. Statistically, he's about where Koivunen is in the AHL. That is based on Othmann's year last year in the AHL and Koivunen's project year this year in the AHL. Age and size are about the same. I think Othmann is a much better skater, and the overall hype/potential is likely higher, but it would be short-sighted not to suggest that Koivunen is closing the gap. Then you add Ponomarov on top of that with a 2nd, I wouldn't have trouble seeing the rationalization of going with Carolina. That said, this is all based on the assumption the deal would have only been Kakko+Othmann. If they add a 2nd and another prospect like Sykora, then you're in the same ballpark.

Given the objective of restocking the prospect pool, Othmann vs Koivunen, Pono, Cruz, and Brunicke, it's an easy decision. Now if it was Gabe Perreault, I may have done him straight up for Jake, lol. But then again, I was really high on Perreault that draft year.

 

[Ryder71]

Assuming the structure of the deals were around "a roster player and a collection of prospects/picks", I think the Carolina deal still may have been preferable.
Kakko vs Bunting is going to be tough. I don't think either has the edge there in terms of play but Kakko may get a slight bump due to age. I don't think Kakko does what Bunting did last year after the TDL. This year? Who knows. History suggests Bunting is the better player just via stats alone.

While I am high on Othmann, we have to be realistic about that as well. Statistically, he's about where Koivunen is in the AHL. That is based on Othmann's year last year in the AHL and Koivunen's project year this year in the AHL. Age and size are about the same. I think Othmann is a much better skater, and the overall hype/potential is likely higher, but it would be short-sighted not to suggest that Koivunen is closing the gap. Then you add Ponomarov on top of that with a 2nd, I wouldn't have trouble seeing the rationalization of going with Carolina. That said, this is all based on the assumption the deal would have only been Kakko+Othmann. If they add a 2nd and another prospect like Sykora, then you're in the same ballpark.

Given the objective of restocking the prospect pool, Othmann vs Koivunen, Pono, Cruz, and Brunicke, it's an easy decision. Now if it was Gabe Perreault, I may have done him straight up for Jake, lol. But then again, I was really high on Perreault that draft year.

This is a very good post, well said!