Salary Cap: Pens '24-'25 Salary Thread: The Crosbicles Volume XIX

Coastal Kev · 2024-10-01T22:51:08-0400

KrisLetAngry said:
Jake got 9x8 on a state with no tax.

We couldn't compete. He got everything he wanted.

He helped us win a cup gave us some good years. He's going to have a few more 40+ goal seasons beside Kucherov powerplay.

I saw someone talk that Stamkos was the most important part. Wrong.
Guentzel may not score as many as Stamkos but Kucherov controls that puck and dishes it out enough that between him and Point they should still score a ton.

That contract will eventually end up being laughably terrible; ,much sooner than anyone thinks.

Pancakes · 2024-10-01T22:56:24-0400

Coastal Kev said:
That contract will eventually end up being laughably terrible; ,much sooner than anyone thinks.

Why? Jake's game isn't built on skating or physical tools.

I think he'll be an effective player into his 30s.

Coastal Kev · 2024-10-01T23:06:13-0400

Pancakes said:
Why? Jake's game isn't built on skating or physical tools.

I think he'll be an effective player into his 30s.

Where he scores goals, his body will fail him and that contract.

Pancakes · 2024-10-01T23:34:57-0400

Coastal Kev said:
Where he scores goals, his body will fail him and that contract.

Maybe. He's such a smart player I think if his body started giving him issues he'd find a way to adapt. Like how Crosby stopped going into the corners as hard after dealing with concussions and high ankle sprains early in his career. Now Sid picks his spots better and he's still been highly effective for years obviously.

Some guys never adapt their game like that though. Forsberg never learned to stop abusing his body.

Big Friggin Dummy · 2024-10-01T23:40:41-0400

Jake's built like a teenage soccer player, but he's smart as hell in the offensive zone. He'll produce for another 5 years or so, imo. Especially because he went from being with Sid or Geno 100% of the time, to being with Kuch and/or Point 100% of the time. Dude's got it made. :laugh:

Pancakes · 2024-10-01T23:47:36-0400

Big Friggin Dummy said:
Jake's built like a teenage soccer player, but he's smart as hell in the offensive zone. He'll produce for another 5 years or so, imo. Especially because he went from being with Sid or Geno 100% of the time, to being with Kuch and/or Point 100% of the time. Dude's got it made.

Yeah he doesn't have to skate hard or dominate the corners just do his Jake thing and get open and Kucherov will feather him endless saucers right onto his tape and Jake knows better than anybody how to finish those plays and get open for them.

Gurglesons · 2024-10-02T00:09:45-0400

Saying Jake will be a bad contract because of his physical abilities is bizarre.

He has none.

canadianguy77 · 2024-10-02T00:41:56-0400

Pancakes said:
Yeah he doesn't have to skate hard or dominate the corners just do his Jake thing and get open and Kucherov will feather him endless saucers right onto his tape and Jake knows better than anybody how to finish those plays and get open for them.

Are they running Jake, Kuch and Point as a line? That has some crazy potential, but teams are going to feast on that line physically. I bet the first tiem they play Boston or Florida, the top line doesn’t make it through the game.
Edit: Just to add…all 3 of those guys are little dicks. Super cocky. Guys are going to hunt them.

Ulf5 · 2024-10-02T03:13:18-0400

Pancakes said:
Maybe. He's such a smart player I think if his body started giving him issues he'd find a way to adapt. Like how Crosby stopped going into the corners as hard after dealing with concussions and high ankle sprains early in his career. Now Sid picks his spots better and he's still been highly effective for years obviously.

Some guys never adapt their game like that though. Forsberg never learned to stop abusing his body.

Sidney the Kidney · 2024-10-02T12:30:20-0400

Pancakes said:
I do wonder if Tampa's PP will be as effective with Jake instead of Stammer though.

Jake is a much better 5v5 player at this point though.

Yeah that's going to be the interesting bit.

The one thing Stamkos has going for him is that lethal one timer on the opposite dot from Kucherov. So they can pass the puck around and open up one-timers for either side. Now, not sure who is playing Stamkos' spot. Point? He doesn't have Stamkos' one timer.

It'll still be dangerous, but I wonder if they're going to miss that one element Stamkos brought to that left circle.

Gurglesons · 2024-10-02T12:59:43-0400

Sidney the Kidney said:
Yeah that's going to be the interesting bit.

The one thing Stamkos has going for him is that lethal one timer on the opposite dot from Kucherov. So they can pass the puck around and open up one-timers for either side. Now, not sure who is playing Stamkos' spot. Point? He doesn't have Stamkos' one timer.

It'll still be dangerous, but I wonder if they're going to miss that one element Stamkos brought to that left circle.

I think I heard they are using Atkinson there. Jake is taking the netfront spot from Nick Paul.

Sidney the Kidney · 2024-10-02T13:53:04-0400

Gurglesons said:
I think I heard they are using Atkinson there. Jake is taking the netfront spot from Nick Paul.

That's still a big downgrade from Stamkos' bomb.

eXile3 · 2024-10-02T14:05:14-0400

Sidney the Kidney said:
That's still a big downgrade from Stamkos' bomb.

Slapshots are being used less and less to score in the modern day NHL. Of course he still scored 40 last year. OV and Stamkos are like the only players still using it effectively. Games gotten too fast.

Gurglesons · 2024-10-02T14:21:13-0400

Sidney the Kidney said:
That's still a big downgrade from Stamkos' bomb.

Never said it wasn't lol.

Byron Bitz · 2024-10-02T15:29:54-0400

Anyone else worried Dubas might try to sign Marner? Dubas has always been in love with him. Marner’s been skating with Crosby in the offseason. If Dubas gives that soft, playoff no-show 11+ million x 8 that will be a disaster.

BlindWillyMcHurt · 2024-10-02T15:33:21-0400

Yeah it would suck to have a 27 year old ~100 point player on the team that is near the top of the league every year in takeaways, would help this team a ton on the PP and could take some pressure off of near-40 Sid and Malkin.

Leafs fans are really weird re: that guy. Mitch Marner isn't the reason you guys can't get over the hump.

Sideline · 2024-10-02T15:34:07-0400

Byron Bitz said:
Anyone else worried Dubas might try to sign Marner? Dubas has always been in love with him. Marner’s been skating with Crosby in the offseason. If Dubas gives that soft, playoff no-show 11+ million x 8 that will be a disaster.

Marner would be a dream signing. I would love to get him on that ticket.

chethejet · 2024-10-02T15:43:42-0400

Marner knows the Leafs with Mathews and Nylander is where he is best positioned. Pens are not all in as much now and know the Malkins, Letang and Sid while still very good have a limited time now. 5 years ago I jump at Marner. But not now. We can see Dubas is moving to prospects more and more to replenish the farm and provide competition and youth for jobs, Sid extended 2 years and to me that was the OK 3 years is more than enough to refigure the mix to compete. I actually think Dubas will move older vets and get more picks/prospects. I can see Eller for a pick. Dubas is adding scouts and development people knowing the rebuild with picks like Brunicke, Rutger M, Ponomarev, Pickering, Issac B, and others added to Glass, DOC, ST Ivany, gives the Pens the 26 age and younger to make up the majority of the roster. Jack is savvy and will be fine, but that shoulder will not hold up and he did make a net front presence more to his game before. Now he will still go there but on a very limited basis.

Randy Butternubs · 2024-10-02T15:44:08-0400

Byron Bitz said:
Anyone else worried Dubas might try to sign Marner?

I, for one, am mortified.

Byron Bitz · 2024-10-02T15:45:05-0400

Sideline said:
Marner would be a dream signing. I would love to get him on that ticket.

*a dream signing for the regular season.

Randy Butternubs · 2024-10-02T15:46:44-0400

Like the Penguins need to worry about making the playoffs.

Sideline · 2024-10-02T15:48:21-0400

Randy Butternubs said:
Like the Penguins need to worry about making the playoffs.

True, but the last time we took a "lazy" franchise winger from the Leafs it worked out pretty well.

Malkinstheman · 2024-10-02T15:50:14-0400

Byron Bitz said:
Anyone else worried Dubas might try to sign Marner? Dubas has always been in love with him. Marner’s been skating with Crosby in the offseason. If Dubas gives that soft, playoff no-show 11+ million x 8 that will be a disaster.

I doubt Marner would even come here in a year to play with a 38 year old Sid or 39 year old Geno

Gurglesons · 2024-10-02T15:54:31-0400

Byron Bitz said:
Anyone else worried Dubas might try to sign Marner? Dubas has always been in love with him. Marner’s been skating with Crosby in the offseason. If Dubas gives that soft, playoff no-show 11+ million x 8 that will be a disaster.

Why would be worried about acquiring a top 10 winger for nothing?

BlindWillyMcHurt · 2024-10-02T15:56:48-0400

The Leafs need more guys like Darcy Tucker... THEN they could win!

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