Salary Cap: Pens 2024 Summer Thread: "Thus, knocking us out of these superior numbers when we emerge! Mr. President, we must not allow a non-playoff bound gap!"

[Honour Over Glory]

Weird how you had no problem saying this same stuff about Matt Murray.

Because Murray literally would say stuff where he blamed lucky goals or just luck. Murray was never an issue in his own mind. He put up legendary numbers in his time in the ahl and the first two seasons as a Penguin and I was a fan and excited about the potential but each time there was a bad loss he would blame lucky shots or just seem agitated about it.

Jarry is arrogant and never takes ownership for his issues, I'm not sure what you are smoking.

I've already answered this with actual interviews about him taking ownership. So your narrative is false as there's a factual proof.

Your issue is he's quiet and speaks to the media as mostly "we" and not "me." As most players do. But there's been interviews written where he's talked about not being good enough and needing to be better to help the team.

You can hate that he gets hurt, has a bad second half, etc. But don't make up dumb shit mate.

 

[Empoleon8771]

The people who think Gibson isn’t terrible say that he has completely mailed it in playing for a shit team, so his bad numbers are due to him not caring. How exactly is that vibe better than Jarry’s?

 

[SomeDude]

Because Murray literally would say stuff where he blamed lucky goals or just luck. Murray was never an issue in his own mind. He put up legendary numbers in his time in the ahl and the first two seasons as a Penguin and I was a fan and excited about the potential but each time there was a bad loss he would blame lucky shots or just seem agitated about it.

I've already answered this with actual interviews about him taking ownership. So your narrative is false as there's a factual proof.

Your issue is he's quiet and speaks to the media as mostly "we" and not "me." As most players do. But there's been interviews written where he's talked about not being good enough and needing to be better to help the team.

You can hate that he gets hurt, has a bad second half, etc. But don't make up dumb shit mate.

Can I hate when he stares down his teammates every time a puck gets behind him because it can certainly not be his fault?

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Can I hate when he stares down his teammates every time a puck gets behind him because it can certainly not be his fault?

Are you going to hate every goalie then? Because Ned does the same thing. Virtually all of the goalies do.

 

[SomeDude]

Are you going to hate every goalie then? Because Ned does the same thing. Virtually all of the goalies do.

Now who's making up dumb shit

 

[Honour Over Glory]

The people who think Gibson isn’t terrible say that he has completely mailed it in playing for a shit team, so his bad numbers are due to him not caring. How exactly is that vibe better than Jarry’s?

One goalie looks like he needs a new voice for a goalie coach and is over played early in the season which clearly wears on him.

The other is apparently tired of losing so doesn't try and has been pretty mediocre to bad for a few seasons and is now being discussed as an option.

What a time to be alive.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Now who's making up dumb shit

You, mate.

It's no different than Sid staring down his linemates or yelling at his team or anyone else doing that after a bad play. What a weird f***ing narrative by you lot. That Jarry is this asshole that shits all over his team. Does he get hurt each season? Yeah. Does he have a bad second half? Yeah. Those are valid points. Don't make up dumb f*** stuff like Gurgletwats and Turdin. I don't care for that stupid lying bullshit. Stick to the actual issues with him and piss off about the rest.

Makes it clear you lot then feel Sullivan isn't the issue, really.

 

[BusinessGoose]

We for sure need a better goalie coach

It's andy chiodo still with the team? Yeesh

 

[Honour Over Glory]

We for sure need a better goalie coach

It's andy chiodo still with the team? Yeesh

We move one goalie that isn't working and keep a cheaper goalie that wasn't much better while the system won't be fixed because now there's an assistant that enables what Sullivan is already doing. Oh and a goalie coach that hasn't improved either goalie last season.

What could possibly go wrong for young Blomqvist in that environment?

 

[BusinessGoose]

We move one goalie that isn't working and keep a cheaper goalie that wasn't much better while the system won't be fixed because now there's an assistant that enables what Sullivan is already doing. Oh and a goalie coach that hasn't improved either goalie last season.

What could possibly go wrong for young Blomqvist in that environment?

It's why if youre smart, like Jake, you bail from this ship

 

[Honour Over Glory]

It's why if your smart, like Jake, you bail from this ship

Of course. There's so many issues and I feel like Jake was never going to come back and had demands he knew Dubas wouldn't be able to match, essentially keeping himself in everyone's good graces while seemingly asking for a trade without asking and then playing the victim. Not the first time we've seen that literal move by a player, it's like a textbook tactic.

There were moments last season where Karlsson was on the verge of calling out the coaching and issues and you could hear it in his voice and the way he was talking about things but then decided to err on the side of professionalism all the while being destroyed by the Pens media. I don't think anyone is on the same page on the team and no one wants to speak up.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Certainly, if we're going to surmise about individual personality and or vibes.. I'm gonna surmise that this is a rudderless ship of chaos. FSG don't know what to do, Dubas is making shit up on the fly, the coaching staff are way out to lunch on league trends let alone on evaluating the talent at hand, and the players are a group of guys not a team.

It's just mismanagement. It's when your boss sucks and the office is falling apart.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

It's obviously impactful in the room too, otherwise Ned wouldn't have gotten the run he got.

People are always making these arguments about Ned over Jarry in terms of "raw numbers" without factoring in the team was actually willing to sellout for Ned.

I lost track how many times Sullivan and the skaters used the word "compete" to describe Ned during that stretch. Ned fought for every possible save. He didn't pout. He has limitations. I don't think he'll ever be a true No. 1. But he'll battle and that wins over teammates.

 

[Tom Hanks]

I could never come up with something that lame. You either come with the heat like K12 Kyle or Kindergarten Kyle or not at all.

Kyle-O-Dial Dundee

“That’s not a trade, this is a trade.”

 

[Turin]

The people who think Gibson isn’t terrible say that he has completely mailed it in playing for a shit team, so his bad numbers are due to him not caring. How exactly is that vibe better than Jarry’s?

Because he’s been in a horrible defensive environment with no goal support for half a decade now, which is a little different.

 

[Turin]

Watching 2017 game 6 and f*** it bring Murray back. RUN IT BACK

Is Hagelins eye better yet? Bring him back too.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Kyle-O-Dial Dundee

“That’s not a trade, this is a trade.”

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Are you allowed to make fun of paul hogan?

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Because he’s been in a horrible defensive environment with no goal support for half a decade now, which is a little different.

Ok the irony keeps delivering.

Watching 2017 game 6 and f*** it bring Murray back. RUN IT BACK

Is Hagelins eye better yet? Bring him back too.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I lost track how many times Sullivan and the skaters used the word "compete" to describe Ned during that stretch. Ned fought for every possible save. He didn't pout. He has limitations. I don't think he'll ever be a true No. 1. But he'll battle and that wins over teammates.

Apparently by the videos the idiots post about Jarry, this means Ned is obnoxious and doesn't take ownership. Our Nedeljkovic, the Vezina winning goalie. The nerve.



Also, he's a Cleveland Browns fan so he supports sexual abuse. Just turrible.

 

[BillyOcean]

Imagine putting in paragraphs of effort to defend Tristan Jarry in the summer of 2024.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Imagine putting in paragraphs of effort to defend Tristan Jarry in the summer of 2024.

Imagine making made up personal insults about a goalie on a team that's coached to shit and neither goalie performed well, in the summer of 2024.

Caribbean Wanker vibes mate.

 

[Pens x]

Imagine being content with Jarry as your team’s starter or clamoring for the Pens to acquire Gibson.

What year is it?

 

[eXile3]

Weird how you had no problem saying this same stuff about Matt Murray.

Jarry is arrogant and never takes ownership for his issues, I'm not sure what you are smoking.

Someone at work told me there is a rumor that Sully was ticked that Jarry didn’t seem to care about losing his job.

It is odd he just kind of shrugged his shoulders.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Imagine being tied for the league lead in shutouts with a team that can't play defense and a terrible coaching staff that can't adjust in game to anything!! Not that bad for a guy people want to kick out of town

The way we play, Neds over a long season rather than a short stretch will get eaten alive, so will Gibson...

 

[Jag68Sid87]

WAAAAAAY too much goaltending talk on this board. People are fricking obsessed with goaltenders. Geez.

Meanwhile, average goaltenders win Stanley Cups and reach the finals seemingly every damn season.

The league has started to devalue the position. Perhaps this board should as well?