GDT: Penguins Trade Deadline thread: What can we get for 3 packs of gum and a signed hockey puck?

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[Jaded-Fan]

Let's get this straight.

Anyone that the Pens draft this year will almost certainly not play until Crosby and Malkin are gone.

So trading expiring contracts that will be gone this off-season and other dead wood, and replacing them with call ups, will not impact that crash and burn rebuild that is coming. It will simply hopefully add some complimentary players to shorten said rebuild.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Which potentially available names in the NHL trade market make sense for the Penguins?

It’s trade deadline week

www.pensburgh.com

So we’re picking up Bonino? That’s what I get from this article lol

Smacks of the kind of cheap, under the radar move that Hextall likes to make at the TDL. /shrug

Wouldn't make this team worse. I don't worry about Hextall's navigation of the TDL. It's his signings, re-signings, and off-season trades that have been dogshit.

 

[Andy99]

Smacks of the kind of cheap, under the radar move that Hextall likes to make at the TDL. /shrug

Wouldn't make this team worse. I don't worry about Hextall's navigation of the TDL. It's his signings, re-signings, and off-season trades that have been dogshit.

He’s slow…we need someone with more foot speed given how much slower we are than the top six Eastern contenders…and we just got even slower trading Kap

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

lol Bonino

Just scraping the bottom of the rumor barrel, now.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Let's get this straight.

Anyone that the Pens draft this year will almost certainly not play until Crosby and Malkin are gone.

So trading expiring contracts that will be gone this off-season and other dead wood, and replacing them with call ups, will not impact that crash and burn rebuild that is coming. It will simply hopefully add some complimentary players to shorten said rebuild.

Agree. I've never pretended that the assets landed for Zucker and Dumo would come in and help right away unless the team uses them to package for immediate help via trade. I just also do not believe or agree with the premise that moving those two guys who are walking this summer, or should 100% be allowed to, does anything to dramatically alter this team currently or in the near-future. Dumo's stabilized, but I still don't trust him enough to hold on to him at all costs, let alone re-sign him. Zucker's been healthy and plays with a lot of heart, but is the 4th highest scoring winger on the team. /shrug

Like you said. It's not about throwing in the towel on a season that's already pretty much lost, or whatever. It's about potentially adding some pieces to a roster down the line that, when coupled with the big picks this team will start landing once Sid's gone in a couple years, hopefully combine to make a roster capable of clawing its way back to relevance.

He’s slow…we need someone with more foot speed given how much slower we are than the top six Eastern contenders…and we just got even slower trading Kap

I'm not saying I want Bonino. I'm saying he seems like a Hextall TDL move because he'll probably be dirt cheap, is cooked but still better than Carter or Blueger so it's technically an upgrade (but not by much), and fills that "PKer, leadership" niche that GMs and coaches go bonkers over.

This team needs good players. I don't really care how big, small, slow or fast they are. I don't want Bonino, but I could see this team wanting Bonino.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Just listened to Jesse on the radio.

His gut is saying JVR is gonna be a Penguin. Which I'd be ok with.

 

[Turin]

lol Bonino

Just scraping the bottom of the rumor barrel, now.

Yes, but honestly who at C who’s available can actually play defense or Pk? Maybe Eller?

 

[vodeni]

He’s slow…we need someone with more foot speed given how much slower we are than the top six Eastern contenders…and we just got even slower trading Kap

is this speed a little bit exagarated...watching how Boston is handling Edmonton easily, no one can mistake Boston for a speedy team, but they make Edmonton slow down, put all kind of stop blocks and grind the f***ers out..

 

[Nakawick]

Yes, but honestly who at C who’s available can actually play defense or Pk? Maybe Eller?

Jason Dickson.

 

[Turin]

Jason Dickson.

True. Bonus to Bonino to being a UFA though.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I don't know that JVR does anything for this team aside from pushing a bottom-6 guy out of the picture, which is definitely a good thing on its own, don't get me wrong. I think he could be a decent net-front guy on the power play. Doubt Philly deals him here though, nor do I have any real interest in landing him.

JVR, McCabe and Schenn were the guys I figured this team would try and kick the tires on in any legitimate way. Bonino's a guy I think they probably think fondly of as well--definitely too fondly. McCabe's gone and went for more than I think he'd have been worth to this team. I think JVR kinda sucks, and I think Schenn definitely sucks, but he'd be the one guy who can give a little shit as opposed to this team just taking it on the chin without any repercussion.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

I have no problem with picking up JVR.

But who are they going to move out to make that happen? I mean, we all wish it could be McGinn or Carter but I don’t see it being a reality. Unless they throw a pick and a player. POJ and a 2nd? Maybe they would like Hallander.

 

[tnnr]

Any interest in Conor Garland? He plays a feisty playoff type game and could bring some scoring to the 3rd line. Has played at a 50-55 point pace for his career. Only downside is that he's signed for 3 more years at 4.9M so you're committing to him. He is still young however at 26 so you're getting his peak years. He could be had for relatively cheap. I'd assume something like Blueger/Heinen/McGinn+ to make the money work or Dumo?

 

[Kasperi kapanen]

Just listened to Jesse on the radio.

His gut is saying JVR is gonna be a Penguin. Which I'd be ok with.

i think that would be horrible

 

[Nakawick]

JVR is a one dimensional rental winger we should avoid.

 

[Turin]

Hextall should be fired before sending assets to Philly to bring in JVR. No idea how the cap even works there without it being a horrible deal. Pens would need to move out like 5 mil to bring him in.

Unless he also got Chychrun.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Any interest in Conor Garland? He plays a feisty playoff type game and could bring some scoring to the 3rd line. Has played at a 50-55 point pace for his career. Only downside is that he's signed for 3 more years at 4.9M so you're committing to him. He is still young however at 26 so you're getting his peak years. He could be had for relatively cheap. I'd assume something like Blueger/Heinen/McGinn+ to make the money work or Dumo?

The Pens were linked to him a lot when the talk was Vancouver wanted Marino this past summer. I've never really been a fan of the guy and think yet another smallish 40-50pt middle-6 forward making $5 million with term is near the bottom of the list for things this team should be targeting.

Definitely plays much bigger than he is and is a better option than anybody in the bottom-6, and probably Rust to be fair. But man, between that contract and whatever it'd cost to get JR to send him here of all places? Can't stay I'm interested at all.

 

[ChaosAgent]

In fairness, this is also me just reading tea leaves. I ain't no Jesse mind reader and there was a lot of waffling. As makes sense since he is intelligent and there isn't a clear cut path.
But like, JVR's name was mentioned more often than any other player.

Do we think there's any chance Carter waives for a chance to go back to Philly? I'd give up a 2nd + 3rd to be rid of him.

 

[Night Shift]

Some want to put us on the path of the f***ing Flyers and Minnesota Wild.

Yeah well no matter which losing side your on, you have to come to terms with the reality that no matter what this organization does (buying, selling or nothing) that they will be the Buffalos, the Phillys, and the Wild within the next handful of years.

 

[tnnr]

The cost on Chychrun/Vejmelka are insane but those 2 in a package to PIT makes so much sense. Fixes the goalie problem and gets a long term partner for Letang.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Read this crap...

Six reasons why James van Riemsdyk is better than Timo Meier

 

[Turin]

In fairness, this is also me just reading tea leaves. I ain't no Jesse mind reader and there was a lot of waffling. As makes sense since he is intelligent and there isn't a clear cut path.
But like, JVR's name was mentioned more often than any other player.

Do we think there's any chance Carter waives for a chance to go back to Philly? I'd give up a 2nd + 3rd to be rid of him.

WELL IF CARTER IS GOING THE OTHER WAY I CHANGE MY MIND

 

[Goalie_Bob]

Fairly obvious that is satire.

 

[Night Shift]

Do we think there's any chance Carter waives for a chance to go back to Philly? I'd give up a 2nd + 3rd to be rid of him

Hextall already stated he won't give up assets for cap space.

Which potentially available names in the NHL trade market make sense for the Penguins?

It’s trade deadline week

www.pensburgh.com

So we’re picking up Bonino? That’s what I get from this article lol

 

[Ugene Magic]

Hextall already stated he won't give up assets for cap space.

No, he said he wouldn't use 1sts to gain cap space.