Post-Game Talk: Penguins @ The Powerhouse - 7 PM | MSG

[Rempe73]

lighten up Francis....did you see the play?

Yea maybe this game killed my mood. I don’t know.

 

[will1066]

My 3 stars:

1. Theodor Blueger
2. Theodore Bluger
3. Theodor Blugere

 

[Tob]

5-2 is such a PIT-NYR score.

 

[Rempe73]

Oh, man, that play by the Italians is gorgeous. ADA’s passes are harder than his shots lmao

 

[Rempe73]

Quinn needs to relax

 

[Black Aces]

Quinn needs to relax

What did he say/ do?

 

[GAGLine]

My 3 stars:

1. Theodor Blueger
2. Theodore Bluger
3. Theodor Blugere

Every time I hear his name I think of this:

 

[Rempe73]

What did he say/ do?

He just yells at the team during practice. 1) They are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs and 2) They are adults.

 

[CasusBelli]

He just yells at the team during practice. 1) They are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs and 2) They are adults.

Oh god — this really is the Florida rebuild all over again. Chapter 1: Iron Mike.

 

[Metranger]

Sabres drop a game to devils. Gimme a break. If they don't beat Ottawa and or Detroit....

Buffalo tied the game but the goal was reversed for goalie interference. Looked like D man pushed Buffalo player backwards into the goalie.

Even Daneyko didn't think the goal would be reversed.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Yo after they win another cup or two, and everyone on the roster retires, these "Penguins" ain't gonna mean shit.

 

[Chaels Arms]

If LA is this invisible next year would it be time to panic? I'm not panicking now but he looks very ineffective out there.

Absolutely

 

[Leetch3]

 

[Calad]

If LA is this invisible next year would it be time to panic? I'm not panicking now but he looks very ineffective out there.

I hope/expect him to have a similar trajectory to Bo Horvat, so far hes followed it

 

[Leetch3]

there have been some positives to take away and i'm not trying to be dramatic about it but man would i feel alot better about things heading into the off season chytil could put together a big stretch here to end the season...

 

[Gresch04]

If LA is this invisible next year would it be time to panic? I'm not panicking now but he looks very ineffective out there.

It's interesting how this "safe" pick is not feeling so safe. I'm starting to think the draft philosophy needs to lean more towards higher ceilings vs. higher floors.

 

[bl02]

It's interesting how this "safe" pick is not feeling so safe. I'm starting to think the draft philosophy needs to lean more towards higher ceilings vs. higher floors.

I will give them the benefit of the doubt hopefully that's the direction they are going towards. the 4 big picks (kravtsov, K'Andre and Nils) after LA seems to be much more higher ceilings (albeit Nils is debatable albeit being younger than all of them)

 

[Boris Zubov]

For the record Smith and Campbell pushed for the Zubov trade. And before them it was Keenan who wanted him traded.

Messier gets brought up a lot in that conversation, and though I started working at MSG about a few months after the trade, it was still a subject that was talked about.

True obviously it wasn’t just Mess, I just know that’s one of the well known instances. Fact is he could be a real *******, but that’s what made him such a good leader. Demanding excellence of your teammates and backing it up yourself by being great.

What was the reasoning at the time? I mean for all of them to want him out there had to be something behind the scenes that wasn't made public. Did Zubie not practice hard or show up to camp in terrible shape? Was he a big booze hound? Something pushed them hard for this trade apparently. I wonder if the 3 of them, Smith, Campbell & Keenan (obviously he was out of the picture by then) ever look back at that trade in hindsight. The 3 of them should be pretty proud of themselves for that deal.

 

[Edge]

What was the reasoning at the time? I mean for all of them to want him out there had to be something behind the scenes that wasn't made public. Did Zubie not practice hard or show up to camp in terrible shape? Was he a big booze hound? Something pushed them hard for this trade apparently. I wonder if the 3 of them, Smith, Campbell & Keenan (obviously he was out of the picture by then) ever look back at that trade in hindsight. The 3 of them should be pretty proud of themselves for that deal.

Zubov was an incredibly talented player, but one who came with long-term questions — conditioning and mental approach being among them.

He was a heavy chain smoker back in the day, among other things, and in both NY and Pittsburgh there was a feeling that some of his missed playing time in 95 and 96 was questionable, or at the very least a result of poor health choices.

You know it’s funny, but people almost forget that Zubov quickly ran afoul of Lemieux and Pittsburgh and only lasted a year there.

In fact upon arriving in Dallas, he got off to a rocky start under Hitchcock and was nearly traded that offseason for the third time in as many years. Those rumors continued to circle him the following year and it really wasn’t until 97-98 that he really started to turn that corner.

 

[egelband]

Zubov was an incredibly talented player, but one who came with long-term questions — conditioning and mental approach being among them.

He was a heavy chain smoker back in the day, among other things, and in both NY and Pittsburgh there was a feeling that some of his missed playing time in 95 and 96 was questionable, or at the very least a result of poor health choices.

You know it’s funny, but people almost forget that Zubov quickly ran afoul of Lemieux and Pittsburgh and only lasted a year there.

In fact upon arriving in Dallas, he got off to a rocky start under Hitchcock and nearly traded that offseason for the third time in as many years. Those rumors continued to circle him the following year and it really wasn’t until 97-98 that he really started to turn that corner.

Aside from true prodigies, most of these guys don't turn into the players theyll be until like 25. It's a reason why I think the league could actually expand more. Just give these guys more time and opportunity and I bet there are enough good players out there.
This is another reason I'm so upbeat about Quinn and the direction the Rangers are taking.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

He just yells at the team during practice. 1) They are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs and 2) They are adults.

Quinn has done a pretty good job this year and gotten a lot from guys who had stagnated under AV.

I also think it's quite ridiculous to say 'he just yells at them,' when that is evidentially untrue. From most reports he is kind of a good cop/bad cop persona. On the ice he expects a ton from them and that sometimes leads to emotions, but he also does things to prop up there confidence, like the daily breakfasts he has with the rookies.

Lastly, we really have no idea how he, the players and the organization in general truly operate, so to judge them based on minor observations is really absurd.

 

[Kovalev27]

DeAngelo was the best player on the ice for either team. I caught Quinn reprimanding him after the 5th goal for something. Worried me any one else see it? Hoping it was nothing.

Lias Andersson was awful. He looked like he made some progress against Toronto but went right back to normal tonight.

Howden is getting tons of chances. That’s being ignored. Eventually these are going to go in once he settles down

Chytil had some moments but not many. Namestnikov on his wing though has completely checked out. Haven’t heard his name in weeks. Lettieri actually had a good game.

George was bad. Love the kid but he was really bad last night. Stole the Toronto game but probably by himself gave this one away when it was winnable.

The buffalo Sabres absolutely disgust me. There’s no way we finish below them. They won’t win another game.

 

[JHS]

Another wonderful display of “rebuild” hockey. Hope all you rebuild fans are looking forward to many more years of this. I’m not.

I’ve never been a fan of Lias but I’m not sure how anyone can really think this guy is going to be a difference maker at the NHL level. He has so much to work on in his game( they’ve been mentioned a lot) that I hope he starts working on them now. Most troubling is just how completely uninvolved he is during the game. That’s terribly alarming to me! I want the guy to succeed but he really needs a great off season to get to a level that needs to look a whole heck of a lot better next season.

You should know the teams in serious trouble when the highlight of the post game interviews centers around Vinnie Lettieri and his scoring his first goal this season. Not sure it can get any more pathetic than that.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Zubov was an incredibly talented player, but one who came with long-term questions — conditioning and mental approach being among them.

He was a heavy chain smoker back in the day, among other things, and in both NY and Pittsburgh there was a feeling that some of his missed playing time in 95 and 96 was questionable, or at the very least a result of poor health choices.

You know it’s funny, but people almost forget that Zubov quickly ran afoul of Lemieux and Pittsburgh and only lasted a year there.

In fact upon arriving in Dallas, he got off to a rocky start under Hitchcock and was nearly traded that offseason for the third time in as many years. Those rumors continued to circle him the following year and it really wasn’t until 97-98 that he really started to turn that corner.

yeah but isn't it easier to blame it on Messier when you are trying to make an awful comparison between skill and toughness between Zubov and prospect players who are "being ruined" who were not even born when we won the cup in 94.

Perhaps some of our super seniors can stretch the narrative from which prospects get playing time at rookie camp and which platoons some of the 1933 and 1940 Rangers ended up in during WW2.

 

[Edge]

yeah but isn't it easier to blame it on Messier when you are trying to make an awful comparison between skill and toughness between Zubov and prospect players who are "being ruined" who not born when we won the cup in 94.

You know, I just realized that this will be first crop of draft picks where the majority were born after Lundqvist was drafted.