Salary Cap: Penguins Salary Cap Thread: We suck again summer edition

[Trade]

Rust and what for DeBrincat?

 

[dkollidas]

Wasn’t sure where to put this. Sabres fan here wondering about Petry.

1) is he available?

2) if so, how much has his game fallen over the past couple seasons?

3) any chance he’d waive his NMC to come to a team like Buffalo (young, on the upswing, good defensemen to pair with, likely with O. Power to start).

4) if dealt, would something around Olofsson/Petry work?

 

[K Fleur]

Rust and what for DeBrincat?

A lot.

A lot that we don’t have.

 

[Gurglesons]

Wasn’t sure where to put this. Sabres fan here wondering about Petry.

1) is he available?

2) if so, how much has his game fallen over the past couple seasons?

3) any chance he’d waive his NMC to come to a team like Buffalo (young, on the upswing, good defensemen to pair with, likely with O. Power to start).

4) if dealt, would something around Olofsson/Petry work?

He's not available.

He's the same player he was in Montreal.

Doubt he'd waive, but Buffalo might be a place he'd do it for.

No. Olofsson literally does nothing for us.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Potentially will have Lindholm, Debrincat among others available this summer. If the team is serious about contending, they have to empty out any remaining assets and go for it the next 1-2 years.

The 14th overall + Pickering + Lottery Protected 2024 1st should get you into most conversations.

 

[molon labe]

- A different coached Pens team this year makes the 2nd round.

- Same coach but better goalie makes the playoffs but probably gets bounced round 1

- A better powerplay makes the playoffs comfortably but probably gets bounced round 1

- A different coach, with a different power play, with a different goalie? Well, skys the limit.

For the FO to do nothing after watching our netmindong suck donkey d for 2 years is baffling. Bottom 6 worthless so they add an overpriced worthless piece to it? Baffling. Power play sucks (has for a while) and we don't target the one or 2 pieces that would have 100% improved it??? (Burns then Miller) okay then. D sucks so we add softies and make them pinch. Okay then. Can't score tough goals so we target 150 lb players. Perfect.

Like if you could make a list of each and every opposite move to make for this franchise I think Burke n Co, and Sully and Co are perfect examples of that. Their decisions are literally like eating poison pills.

 

[Ryder71]

Pretty sure we're now picking 14 OA? If the Sabres win tonight I think we move up another spot. Can anyone confirm with Tie breakers?

 

[Extra Texture]

Getting Debrincat would be a Kessel-esque move for this team. I hope the team goes for these swings since they still want to contend.

Yup, it would be an "all-in" kind of move and be a hell of a statement to the league. Plus he's a diminutive American, so Sullivan probably love him already.

 

[Pancakes]

Debrincat would probably cost our first plus something else like Poulin or Pickering or whatever.

 

[BusinessGoose]

On the brightside, no longer being a playoff team, our draft picks should pick up value in trades lol

 

[molon labe]

My own bias I've said for going on 4, 5 years now is that this team is only winning with this core again if we target LA Kings/Blues heavy hockey going forward. This run and gun shit is dumb with 35 year olds. Playoffs slow things down anyway- but watching our skinny D push guys I'm the crease like toddlers wrestling there daddies is embarrassing. Watching our itty bitty forwards get pushed to the outside sucks too.

Let New Jersey flash- I'd take a 2010s Blues team against any in the Metro today. I'd take the old Kings core in a chess move against the speed and flash of today. But trying to keep pace while having an older and older sid and Geno down the middle seems stupid. Maybe if you put them on their own line and had the rest 22 year olds flying around idk. This half assed roster is the dumbest I've seen. You have 3 old centers trying to push the pace I'm a fast eastern conference. Weird how that didn't work so well. And if this flash and speed is what our stars demand- back them up with knuckle dragging D that can bang. You can ice nothing but tiny's and NOT get pushed to the outside. Hell our PP sucks so we can even scare teams out of dirty hits like 2016. That team was not a team you wanted on the PP late in a game. This team? I'd elbow and cross check every one of them.

So yeah, D heavy system, OR a heavy team looking for chances, OR put Sod and Geno together and ice the rest with YOUTH. Oh and of course get some damn goalies worth something.

 

[Extra Texture]

Potentially will have Lindholm, Debrincat among others available this summer. If the team is serious about contending, they have to empty out any remaining assets and go for it the next 1-2 years.

The 14th overall + Pickering + Lottery Protected 2024 1st should get you into most conversations.

Yup, bingo. That's music to my ears.

If a new GM wants to come in here and start remaking this roster, with the intent of making waves in the next few years, there should plenty of talent out there to make a statement WITH

 

[Andy99]

Debrincat would probably cost our first plus something else like Poulin or Pickering or whatever.

Swap him for Guentzel ?

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

A lot.

I was gonna say. Probably a 1st, plus Blomqvist, and then maybe more.

 

[66-30-33]

Pretty sure we're now picking 14 OA? If the Sabres win tonight I think we move up another spot. Can anyone confirm with Tie breakers?

We are officially 14th OA no matter what. Thought first tie breaker after GP was total wins, apparently it's RW.

 

[SomeDude]

The 14th overall + Pickering + Lottery Protected 2024 1st should get you into most conversations.

Those conversations would mostly be "remember when the Pens pissed away the little futures they had..."

 

[The Old Master]

TSN said that Debrincat isn't happy in Ottawa and will probably be dealt at the draft.

Would you guys move the 14th overall for him? I'm not sure. He would be a great add but do we really need another tiny non physical scoring winger?

NO

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Yup, it would be an "all-in" kind of move and be a hell of a statement to the league. Plus he's a diminutive American, so Sullivan probably love him already.

But he played in the OHL rather than NCAA, so that's a strike against him in Sullivan's eyes.

Plus, how is he on the PK? Seems to be the only thing Sullivan gives a damn about talking about whenever a new player is added.

 

[The Old Master]

We are officially 14th OA no matter what. Thought first tie breaker after GP was total wins, apparently it's RW.

d$#% that 1 point

 

[Gurglesons]

But he played in the OHL rather than NCAA, so that's a strike against him in Sullivan's eyes.

Plus, how is he on the PK? Seems to be the only thing Sullivan gives a damn about talking about whenever a new player is added.

Can not wait until we draft someone that is a pro on the PK.

 

[canadianguy77]

But he played in the OHL rather than NCAA, so that's a strike against him in Sullivan's eyes.

Plus, how is he on the PK? Seems to be the only thing Sullivan gives a damn about talking about whenever a new player is added.

Never realized Mike was a -105 in his playing career. It explains a lot.

 

[Slaaapshuter]

As soon as Rust enters a room or is mentioned, Sullivan spaces out and starts daydreaming

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Can not wait until we draft someone that is a pro on the PK.

The irony is our PK sucked. We were under 80% and like 17th in the entire NHL in penalty killing.

 

[Gurglesons]

The irony is our PK sucked. We were under 80% and like 17th in the entire NHL in penalty killing.

What’s the irony? Our coach sucks.

Least surprising thing ever Mike Sullivan can’t coach better than Dan Bylsma lol

 

[eXile3]

Wasn’t sure where to put this. Sabres fan here wondering about Petry.

1) is he available?

2) if so, how much has his game fallen over the past couple seasons?

3) any chance he’d waive his NMC to come to a team like Buffalo (young, on the upswing, good defensemen to pair with, likely with O. Power to start).

4) if dealt, would something around Olofsson/Petry work?

1) Yes.
2) He’s fallen off a little but can still eat minutes. Had games where he looked awful but wasn’t a consistent issue. No dman looks good in Sullivan’s system.
3) Probably not but after our disastrous season who knows.
4) Honestly didn’t know Olofsson scored 27 this year but would still want more for Petry.