Penguinator
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Tinordi's decision making is slow in every regard, this is a long shot that requires patience, Kunitz is way more effective at this point in time. MJ is just trying **** before the season starts, don't be so trigger happy.
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Tinordi's decision making is slow in every regard, this is a long shot that requires patience, Kunitz is way more effective at this point in time. MJ is just trying **** before the season starts, don't be so trigger happy.
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You're exactly right. We will know, but the majority will just eat up the PR.
Meanwhile, Earnitz will be flubbing chances like a one eyed ping pong player.
Zen Arcade
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Tinordi is really tempting, with his size, mean streak and skating though.
I'd probably do Bennett for Tinordi, project for project. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to run away and throw a bunch of furniture behind me so the rest of the board doesn't kill me.
IcedCapp
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There are some people pushing hard for him to stay
you missed pepperonis
BHD
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They're trying to get his value really high before trading him for a veteran winger.
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steveg
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I assume those same people intend to look to trade Perron and Bennett?
I hate missing pepperonis!
Ogrezilla
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I really hope he's serious. And honestly I wouldn't be shocked if he is. JR doesn't seem like he'd be shy about this kind of stuff. Especially if there really are plans to move Perron. I still don't want it to happen, but Sprong becoming an instant NHL forward would certainly take some of the sting away from a Perron trade.
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IcedCapp
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Perron was acquired in January. It's physically impossible for him to be loathed for the final six months of the season. Add to that the fact that he was absolutely loved the first month or so, and we can first start by saying, "make the questionable things you post less obviously questionable."
Next, we can say that juding a player on a two-month sample (more accurate) is not how a smart person would conduct themselves. If you're judging Perron on those two months, the fourth line would be comprised of everyone on the roster outside of Crosby, Kessel and Hornqvist.
I would say "good luck in your future endeavors", but I didn't quote you for a reason.
Next, we can say that juding a player on a two-month sample (more accurate) is not how a smart person would conduct themselves. If you're judging Perron on those two months, the fourth line would be comprised of everyone on the roster outside of Crosby, Kessel and Hornqvist.
I would say "good luck in your future endeavors", but I didn't quote you for a reason.
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Wasn't it JR who kept hinting KK could play in the NHL last summer?
I'm not totally sure how NHL ready Sprong is yet, but he looks like Jagr compared to KK last preseason.
If he can be somewhat productive in his nine games (4-5 points?) and most importantly show he can be trusted, maybe he has a chance to stick.
Hopefully he keeps using his speed to get back and hound guys with the puck. That's a natural gift he has that he can use to his advantage. He can generating a ton of offense that way and really endear himself to the coaching staff for playing responsible hockey. He just has to be careful about trying to do too much, especially when he faces systematic hockey which wasn't being played that well during pre-season.
If he starts turning pucks over and becomes a liability, he will be on the short bus soon...
...and, of course, I feel ever so slighted slighted suffering such indignity from an anonymous poster on the internet
. Please respond to me! However, my point remains that Perron was excoriated on these boards for his lack of production during the drive to playoffs and in the series against the Rangers (I suppose you would characterize such people as "not very smart"). Now, there is much brow-mopping over him being traded (I would characterize those people as "pretty smart"). Having not had a chance to see many games, I was wondering if he was that impressive during camp to prompt such a shift in HFB consensus.
BTW, I am a Perron fan and wasn't particularly worried that his form and the end of last season was permanent.
Mr Jiggyfly
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...and, of course, I feel ever so slighted slighted suffering such indignity from an anonymous poster on the internet
However, my point remains that Perron was excoriated on these boards for his lack of production during the drive to playoffs and in the series against the Rangers (I suppose you would characterize such people as "not very smart"). Now, there is much brow-mopping over him being traded (I would characterize those people as "pretty smart"). Having not had a chance to see many games, I was wondering if he was that impressive during camp to prompt such a shift in HFB consensus.
BTW, I am a Perron fan and wasn't particularly worried that his form and the end of last season was permanent.
I think it's those of us all along who have been in Perron's corner *****ing about the stupidity going on, rather than his detractors.
People love to pound their chests when they are right round here, so I'd imagine his detractors would prefer to say "told you so" than ***** how he is being used on the fourth line, at RW etc.
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The biggest issue I see with Sprong staying up is that it forces GMJR to make a move by about mid-November in order to ensure there's cap space for Fehr to return. Like... they're going to have to move Perron for a sub-$3m defender within the first 6 weeks of the season. Maatta and Plotnikov have not business being send down (as it stands right now), and Sprong is the only other guy on the roster that can move without waivers... but he'll be past his 9 games and burning a year of his ELC by then.
Harvey Birdman
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Honestly I'm not even sweating it. Compared to years past where we were begging for a young player to inject themselves into the lineup to improve our roster situation... We have a rookie pushing a veteran Perron into a position where he will be possibly exiting our roster. IMO that's a good problem to have. And if we end up shoring up our d a bit in the end, even better. Im enthusiastic for the first time in a few years as a Pens fan, it's nice to feel that again.
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They could just waive and demote Farnham or Erixon without having to do any trades. That roster would fit under the cap. So it doesn't really force trade. I mean if they trade Perron for D-man, then Erixon would still go on waivers or be added to the trade, as they wouldn't go with 9 D-man on the roster.
Sprong isn't pushing Perron. The coach is burying Perron. This is not the Pens have great depth; it's that the Pens would rather play Kunitz and Plotnikov neither of whom are as good or as skilled as Perron while playing Perron on the fourth line put of position.
This team has two dedicated left wings and only one of them is under thirty.
Sprong cannot replace Perron; Sprong is a RW.
I am happy Sprong has played well, but the situation with Perron is not a positive for the Pens. The situation with Kunitz is not a positive for the Pens.
Mr Jiggyfly
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Just a couple of years ago we were wishing for a RH winger, now they have too many...
Kessel, Hornqvist, Perron, BB, and Sprong. Pretty much all of their top six, should be top six, and has the potential to be top guys are righties.
At least Plotnikov is a lefty.
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I suspect at least one of Perron/BB is gone soon enough.
I want to see one of the following happen. Sprong on LW, Plot with Sid or PH on a badass shutdown line with Fehr and Dupuis.
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Mr Jiggyfly
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Have to see how Sprong does. Can he score at the NHL level?
Moving BB is stupid as hell. He has minimum value, but it's the Pens so...
Perron isn't a guy I'd be looking to move. Sprong is young and an unknown, he could start out hot and then really slump, get fatigued etc, BB could break his leg on any given shift, Dupuis hasn't played a full season in two years and could go back on IR at any minute.
If a couple of these scenarios or other unforeseen injuries hit, suddenly your depth doesn't look so hot. I don't see any reason to move anyone until they need to, and then logic dictates it should be Kunitz. His days as an effective player are numbered. You don't keep a soon to be scrap heap guy in lieu of a younger, proven player.
