Penguins reduce their roster by 6 players
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Cullen might not even be playing when Fehr is back. They have very good center depth.
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Wait 'til Bennett's strong preseason leads to him being a frequent healthy scratch.
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The kid has big brass balls, I'll give him that. As long as we limit his minutes and he's smart, he might just be ok.
And yeah, Scuds and LJ practicing in the top 6 is worrying, but I won't go full on angry until the start of the season. Scuds has no Left D spot any more since Cole has been moved over. As long as we have Cole on the left, I don't see a spot for Scuds.
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As sacrilegious as this will sound, I think Bennett being a scratch will have less impact on wins and losses than Scuderi and Lovejoy both playing in the top six defense will. So while I won't be happy if that happened, I think the overall effect on the team's production won't be as hampered as it will if the two useless pylons play regularly on defense.
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It's too bad you're not the coach, then. Because, according to the practice pairings, our illustrious coach does see a spot for him. Otherwise Clendening would be paired with Maatta and Scuderi would be on the "extra pairing" with Erixon. If there was any chance of Scuderi being scratched, he wouldn't be penciled in next to one of the Pens' top four guys. He'd be paired with another guy who isn't expected to start.
He was definitely confident in all the post draft euphoria interviews I heard with him. I am sure it is the same thing that 99% of all high draft picks say, but to see him play so well in the preseason, gives his statements weight.
I remember him saying, "I realize that I might need more time to develop, but whatever they decide, I am fine with. But make no mistake, I am coming in with the goal to make the team."
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Not a direct call to "this year", but I can see where the context would suggest that your point is valid.
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Subban's comments are encouraging. It's not often a D on a different team talks up an 18 year old 2nd rounder from another country.
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I like Farnham and all but if Bennett or Sprong are healthy scratches so that he can play I will not like that.
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A) Seeing those practice lines along with some of his bad decisions from last year, I am pretty close to having no faith left in Johnston. It takes time for a minor league coach to get adjusted, especially with a fairly fluid roster, so I try to be patient (more patient than the zeitgeist of this board anyway) but... some of the things he does I just don't get it.
I don't know the degree to which he has total free reign vs. one of our dumbass asst GMs saying "hey we traded for these vet guys and we believe in these vet guys; we don't want to see them in bottom 6 / pairing roles." There really could be some of that IMO. Penguins mgmt and ownership overall has been that bad in recent years. Then again it could just be Johnston who is "that dumb". We'll see what happens but I'm fast approaching the "get rid of him" attitude.
B) Trading Perron right now because Sprong and Plot looked pretty good in camp and our F depth isn't at the putrid levels it was at some points in the past, is also "that dumb". David Perron, for whatever his slumps is still a skilled and more proven player than any of the new guys, and certainly deserves a shot at the top 6 in his native position over Kunitz. We may in fact miuse and then trade him, but it's nothing to celebrate; not unless we get a really solid Top 4 D for him. Then at least it's a wash.
Having Perron stick around for a while longer is a better idea than letting him go early this season, I can tell you that. We could easily end up in a situation in a few weeks where Sprong is gone, Kunitz is struggling badly again and we're looking for a solid LW to give some minutes to.
I don't know the degree to which he has total free reign vs. one of our dumbass asst GMs saying "hey we traded for these vet guys and we believe in these vet guys; we don't want to see them in bottom 6 / pairing roles." There really could be some of that IMO. Penguins mgmt and ownership overall has been that bad in recent years. Then again it could just be Johnston who is "that dumb". We'll see what happens but I'm fast approaching the "get rid of him" attitude.
B) Trading Perron right now because Sprong and Plot looked pretty good in camp and our F depth isn't at the putrid levels it was at some points in the past, is also "that dumb". David Perron, for whatever his slumps is still a skilled and more proven player than any of the new guys, and certainly deserves a shot at the top 6 in his native position over Kunitz. We may in fact miuse and then trade him, but it's nothing to celebrate; not unless we get a really solid Top 4 D for him. Then at least it's a wash.
Having Perron stick around for a while longer is a better idea than letting him go early this season, I can tell you that. We could easily end up in a situation in a few weeks where Sprong is gone, Kunitz is struggling badly again and we're looking for a solid LW to give some minutes to.
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He played a scrimmage over the summer and Sprong was there. He said that by the end of it, he was asking around about who the guy was and who he'd be playing for. Sprong caught his attention, in other words.
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But we have so many young defensemen in dire need of Scuderi's mentorship. Look what he did for Despres. The guy barely knew which end to hold the stick by when he was on the Pens, but after learning the ropes from Professor Scuderi, he was anchoring the Ducks top pairing a few short weeks after the trade. You can't put a price on those kinds of results.
Whoever heard of a team with 6 offensive d anyway? Amirite?
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Haha......so true.
Because Steiggy told me so.
Cut to regular season, Scuderi and Despres in their own zone. Scuds with the puck ...holding it, holding it, holding it,...as one forechecker approach, and then a second. And then Scuderi finally dishes a suicide pass to his partner. Despres, collects it, even as he is pressured. makes a nice skating move to elude the incoming forward. Skates nimbly with the puck, advancing forward with the puck and spots one of his teammates up ice and sends them a nice pass. Effectively neutralizing the opposition pressure.
Aaaannnd what do we hear? (From either Steiggy or Errey)
"Did you see how calmly Scuderi got the puck to his partner?....Nice and easy, right on his stick. He setup that entire play."
That commentary happened several times and each time, I thought I was taking crazy pills.
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Underwhelming Pouliot camp or not, Scuderi isn't one of our 6 best defensemen. MJ decides the roster, he gets the blame.
And let's not pretend like veterans don't get preferential treatment regardless of how their young competition performs.
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Jesus Christ. It played out exactly that way last season more times than I can count.
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He reminds me of AO...
With the way he celebrates. Guess he will wear 11?
Clendening played how we wanted DP to play, so the logic here I'm not sure where it's coming from...
Lovejoy was a dumpster fire in the preseason. He should be the one sitting for Clendening TBTH.
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One medium-sized elephant in the room, if they do in fact try to play LJ and Scuds, is how are Clendening and Erixon supposed to develop sitting in the press box? Clendening especially is playing very good hockey right now, all we need is to sit him in favor of the dumpster fire or the other dumpster fire.
At least we have Pouliot working on his game in the A free of waivers as potential cavalry later in the year, as hopeful an idea as that may be.
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