KareemTrustfund
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Harkins did not allow a shot on goal while he was on the ice against Tampa. It was a blink and you miss it moment , but he actually blocked every shot himself.
Speculation: Penguins off day talk thread: Yes, Sully is still the coach
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Big Friggin Dummy
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Sounds like you're about to get tucked in. smh
KareemTrustfund
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Someone would have to be sleeping on me for that to happen. And trust me when I say, nobody sleeps on Kareem T. Trustfund.
AuroraBorealis
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Ok so when Harkins defends well it matters, and when Nylander does (like last year) it has no value. Understood.
DesertedPenguin
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It's likely cap considerations. He makes considerably more than the other options, and I think the idea is to use as little cap space created by LTIR that you can so that you have more available to make a deal at the deadline.
DesertedPenguin
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Zohorna doesn't have a goal in the last month and has two assists in his past 12 games.
DOC has two goals and two assists in his last 14 games, with one goal and one assist coming while playing in the top six.
Eller has one point in his last 10 games.
I'm as big of a process guy as anyone, but at some point process needs to turn into results. Those guys were no longer producing. Breaking them up wasn't a big deal.
KareemTrustfund
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In the ancient forests of Sweden, there's a tale of the Enchanted Elkhorn, a mystical creature said to have antlers adorned with shimmering runes. It's believed that those who decipher the runes gain wisdom beyond measure, but the elusive Elkhorn only reveals itself during the ethereal Midnight Midsommar, dancing in the moonlight to share its secrets with the chosen few.
Let’s just say Nylander should be spending more time looking for the Elkhorn and less time mucking up line 2.
AuroraBorealis
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Like I said, the breakup of that line hasn't been worth it for the team. We're getting less out of Eller and Z right now, and there's too much pressure on the top-six again. We're having to shorten the bench too much. The team is getting outplayed territorially lately.
And yeah, as the ice time diminishes it becomes more unlikely Z will snap out of it.
What should have been done is to maintain that functioning L3 and then cycle through our numerous depth options with Malkin (or Sid) until Rakell returns. It didn't have to be DOC.
Puustinen, Pitlick, Nylander, Hinostroza.
It's a 6GF-3GA line. When it comes to lines, I usually believe in just keeping what works and then making rotations among the lines that aren't. Or you can use call-ups.
When it comes to L2, Smith's recent regression is hurting more than anything. There's been a noticeable drop-off in his effort level.
Since the San Jose game, he has 2 assists and is a -3 in 13 games, while averaging 17 mins a night.
I'd look at diminishing his ice time until he gets back on track. I'd give those minutes to guys who deserve them more, instead of crushing their confidence and making them less useful for the year.
AuroraBorealis
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Maybe he'd look better on L2 if Smith (and often Malkin) weren't playing like garbage lately at 5v5.
Instead of just blaming a player you hate, look at what's happening around him.
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I like Nylander. I think he should be in the lineup. I don’t want him in the top six though. Geno and Smith are playing dreadful so it would be hard to succeed there currently anyway.
Nylander isn’t the guy to get them going. Not until he finds the elkhorn at least.
AuroraBorealis
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We're at the 3-game mark with Nylander this year. We don't know anything yet.
Last year I recall L2 getting a notable boost when Nylander came up, especially at possession, scoring chances and defense. At that time the other winger was playing better though.
We don't have a player who's gonna get L2 going while Rakell is away. It has to come from within. Malkin and Smith have to figure it out.
There's two guys who produce better than Nylander at the NHL level, out of our available options for L2: Zohorna and Pitlick.
Z is getting crushed right now with minutes deprivation, so that one doesn't look to be on the horizon. Pitlick can't defend and isn't gonna be a Sullivan guy as a result. Hinostroza's probably who I'd go with if it's not gonna be Nylander.
DOC has been the beneficiary of a few nice setups. He got into a wide open space off a Sid dish and had an easy, clear pass to Jake backdoor.
Then he had a tap in backdoor off a beautifully executed 2 on 1 by Malkin.
Credit to him for not choking I guess, but those are plays I'd expect most NHL'ers to make. He's not driving anything.
I hope he keeps this up, but I don't think that's likely. As such, I'd prefer to use the guy with better offensive awareness and hands with Malkin.
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Don’t disagree with any of that. Nylander was way more envolved and noticeable last year though like you said. I don’t think it’s just about how bad Malkin and Smith are playing. Nylander in the preseason looked abysmal. And he still looks abysmal the last couple of games. If he can do what he did last year he’s a fine replacement for a bit until Rakell comes back. I’d still prefer Rust play with them and put DOC with Sid and Jake until Rakell returns and have Nylander try and find his game in the bottom six.
DesertedPenguin
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Ned in net tonight.
Acciari likely not going to play on the road trip, but not out longer term. Rakell has started skating.
Hinostroza likely scratched.
Acciari likely not going to play on the road trip, but not out longer term. Rakell has started skating.
Hinostroza likely scratched.
Wow, how bad a mistake must Hino have made to be scratched again…meanwhile, Graves still suits up for like 20 min a game…
Gurglesons
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I can't believe we are defending Alex Nylander in 2023. Dude is trash.
help brother out...what am I missing with Hino? Other than Eller, I'd play him before anyone else from those two bottom lines? Am I crazy?
Icarium
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We should a start petition to the refs to take pity on the Pens and stop giving them any power plays. Watching this power play is a cruel and unusual punishment, after all.
Buddy Bizarre
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Wonder if we could enact a rule where instead of taking the PP 5 on 4, we can ask to play 4 on 4
Big Friggin Dummy
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I think, realistically, it's just a whole pile of nothing and for whatever reason Hino seems to have drawn the short straw lately.
But the team's not really crippling themselves by scratching the guy, imo. I'd prefer him to Carter or Nieto or Harkins, but I don't think it's a huge chasm separating those guys.I've gone past the pain threshold. I'm numb to the ineptitude. Best one can hope for is: 1. keeping any momentum; 2. not giving up a shorty.
Pens x
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What happened to the whole if the team sucks in December, deep pockets FSG would fire Sully?
HandshakeLine
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FSG are just Sully's little pay pigs and man is his OF, NSFW.
Seriously WTF, but I called it yesterday with the call-up that he would sit. It's an absolute joke. Regardless of the lapse in teh BUF game, there is NO way he should sit over 5 other guys playing. O nly guy in the Bottom 6 who has produced anything.
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