Rumor: Penguins interested in Robert Hagg

[Turin]

For what it’s worth, this was initially said by kingerski who is the biggest hack I’ve ever seen in a sea of journalistic hacks. I don’t know if Yohe got it from him, but Yohe has not shown any sign of actually knowing what Hextall regime is doing thus far either.

 

[Jerkbait]

Downgrade but with hextall he may pull the pin

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

It's like the organization never learned from the failed Jack Johnson experiment.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I mean, maybe. That's great.

But the rumor quoted here isn't "Pens trying to dump a contract" it's "Pens looking to improve." You could be right about dumping Pettersson. But this is a Hagg thread.

Hagg is terrible. I wouldn't want him on my team for free. He makes a team worse.

I don't know that trading Pettersson for Hagg is really "dumping" Pettersson. It's trading from a position of strength (LHD puck movers) for a position of weakness (physical defenseman).

The Penguins would likely add a bit but I think it wouldn't be anything major. Maybe like Pettersson and a 3rd/4th for Hagg.

 

[banks]

I don't know that trading Pettersson for Hagg is really "dumping" Pettersson. It's trading from a position of strength (LHD puck movers) for a position of weakness (physical defenseman).

The Penguins would likely add a bit but I think it wouldn't be anything major. Maybe like Pettersson and a 3rd/4th for Hagg.

That's a pretty big downgrade, in my humble opinion.

 

[jmelm]

The only way it would make sense if Pittsburgh were actually in on Chiarot, or if they’re considering Hagg (who they don’t need at all and wouldn’t crack their top 7), would be if they had another deal lined up where they’re trading one of their D for a top 6 winger.

Otherwise this makes zero sense.

 

[Chainshot]

If true, 3rd pairing guy who if on LD hasn't been terrible. Whatever you do, don't put him on RD... there are few words to describe how hard he struggles on his offhand side. Honestly, watching him in Philly and then watching him in Buffalo, he's been better this year on a team thought to be truly terrible to start the year. Probably something like a 4th or 5th rounder.

 

[mja]

I don't know that trading Pettersson for Hagg is really "dumping" Pettersson. It's trading from a position of strength (LHD puck movers) for a position of weakness (physical defenseman).

The Penguins would likely add a bit but I think it wouldn't be anything major. Maybe like Pettersson and a 3rd/4th for Hagg.

Hagg's physicality is so overblown. 99% of his "hits" are bumps along the walls after the puck has already been moved. They're not even particularly hard or anything, it's just him getting out of position and processing the game too slowly to understand where the puck is going.

 

[biturbo19]

Ehhh...the guy is a favoured whipping boy and he's obviously not a great defenceman. Definitely not the type of defencemen people around here seem to appreciate in general. But for a late round pick or something, you could do worse for a spare depth defenceman.

 

[Victor Z]

We have Freidman sitting as it is. Hagg isn't better than Freidman so...why? Unless it's for a LATE pick like a 5th or 6th.

Acquiring Hagg at ANY price, short of dumping a Jack Johnson-type contract on the Sabres (and maybe not even then), is just stupid. Think harder, Hextall. Much harder.

 

[Empoleon8771]

That's a pretty big downgrade, in my humble opinion.

It is a big downgrade at 5v5, but I think it's worthwhile for the Penguins because it saves them cap space and Hagg offers some physicality and special teams upside that Pettersson definitely does not add. Pettersson is the better 5v5 defenseman, but Pettersson's skillset is a surplus on the Penguins. They have no one like Hagg, even with Hagg's issues.

 

[TheKingPin]

This would be the only bit of good news for us flyers fans. I doubt it’s true though.

 

[Tender Rip]

Looks somewhat hilarious at first glance.

I could see there being reason to the madness though. Haggsta is a reasonable PK’er whereas Petterson is our least used D-man on that unit with Matheson, and neither are used there unless we absolutely have to. He’d also be our most prominent hitter, and would play sheltered ES minutes.

If Petterson goes the other way, it gives us added cap-flex to address F and also gives meaningful relief for the Summer, where we’d have an in-house option in POJ or Friedman.

Of course, Petterson should be worth a good deal more than Hagg, but the other issues mentioned might make this a low-key win/win for both teams.

 

[Djp]

Looks somewhat hilarious at first glance.

I could see there being reason to the madness though. Haggsta is a reasonable PK’er whereas Petterson is our least used D-man on that unit with Matheson, and neither are used there unless we absolutely have to. He’d also be our most prominent hitter, and would play sheltered ES minutes.

If Petterson goes the other way, it gives us added cap-flex to address F and also gives meaningful relief for the Summer, where we’d have an in-house option in POJ or Friedman.

Of course, Petterson should be worth a good deal more than Hagg, but the other issues mentioned might make this a low-key win/win for both teams.

Pittsburgh would need to add considerably to take back a Peterson cap dump.

 

[CapSpace]

But... why

 

[These Are The Days]

Dude I thought the Pens were going "all in"

 

[Deadpool8812]

If you're going all in, you don't acquire Hagg.

 

[Turin]

Pittsburgh would need to add considerably to take back a Peterson cap dump.

Mmm probably not since he would instantly be a decent upgrade in Buffalo.

 

[Tender Rip]

Pittsburgh would need to add considerably to take back a Peterson cap dump.

Don’t think this happens unless Buffalo has an interest in having Petterson. He will be a useful player on many teams.
Afterall, we are not trading for a better player here, if indeed there is anything to the rumor.

Most likely it comes as a surprise to many that Hagg would even have value to a contender.

 

[Petes2424]

It’s not going to end well for Hextall in Pittsburgh.

 

[ponder719]

This is the only good news I've had as a Flyers fan all season.

 

[jmelm]

Mmm probably not since he would instantly be a decent upgrade in Buffalo.

BUF has no use for Pettersson. Aside from Dahlin and Power, who will obviously be their top 2 left D for a long time, they have Mattias Samuelsson already playing ~ 20 minutes/game in the NHL and has fantastic potential long term as a physical shut-down Dman; and first rounder LD Ryan Johnson who is ready to turn pro. That’s why BUF is looking for a RD.

 

[Tender Rip]

BUF has no use for Pettersson. Aside from Dahlin and Power, who will obviously be their top 2 left D for a long time, they have Mattias Samuelsson already playing ~ 20 minutes/game in the NHL and has fantastic potential long term as a physical shut-down Dman; and first rounder LD Ryan Johnson who is ready to turn pro. That’s why BUF is looking for a RD.

Good point with Power. In that case I see it even less. Can’t say I am too disappointed either .

 

[gdsmack267]

The only way I'd be ok with this is if its for like a 6th or 7th and another D man is moved out to vancouver for a forward. Simply for depth reasons only. Pens could easily just call up POJ for the playoffs

 

[Djp]

Don’t think this happens unless Buffalo has an interest in having Petterson. He will be a useful player on many teams.
Afterall, we are not trading for a better player here, if indeed there is anything to the rumor.

Most likely it comes as a surprise to many that Hagg would even have value to a contender.

idont see Peterson being anything of value other than a negative cap dump.

Hagg actually hasn’t been bad for Buffalo.