Likely an order of magnitude higher. By the end of last season, I would leave the room when we were on PP. Wasn't worth the frustration.
Confirmed with Link: Penguins acquire Erik Karlsson for Granlund, 1st rounder in 2024, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith (more in first post)
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StIvany4Norris
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I got season tickets to all home and away games…aka I watch on a stream online.
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Are you trying to elevate your status and inherent-authority here by becoming a STH?
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Those people were being petulant and willingly ignoring the facts about the Karlsson situation. Karlsson, Graves, Smith, Acciari is a hell of an offseason.
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I actually give a damn about watching now.
So there's that.
Enh, just memories like fruit flies.
As usual.
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My big question is whether certain pessimistic HF members will ever post again. Some haven't been heard from since the day of the Karlsson trade.
Downright sleepy.
Downright sleepy.
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My favourite is taking the GM's at their absolute word at the July 1st press conference. Things we go through every year, and they're never true, and yet people insist this time it's true because they want to complain.
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The only disappointment of this off-season: I wish the cap wouldn't be flat because I feel like Dubas would have had a downright magical off-season with more cap space. He has already had an amazing off-season, but imagine if he had like another $3 million in cap space to play with as well.
Another way to put that: imagine what Dubas could have done if he didn't have Carter's immovable contract on the books. They could have Tatar plus a better 4C than Carter and this lineup would be looking the best it has since the 2017 cup winning team.
Another way to put that: imagine what Dubas could have done if he didn't have Carter's immovable contract on the books. They could have Tatar plus a better 4C than Carter and this lineup would be looking the best it has since the 2017 cup winning team.
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Yeah without this trade I was probably watching maybe 10 games this year and only in the background. Now I’m keen to see as many as possible.
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The trade itself was a nice piece of work, but imo, really calls into question Dubas’ team building skills. Reminds me of the Tavares signing in TO, great player, not very complimentary to the roster and at the caphit preventing them from getting pieces they really need.
I don’t think this is a good fit for Pittsburgh. EK is a treat to watch, but offensive d with limited defensive ability are already on the roster. Big splash that doesn’t change the Penn’s fortunes imho.
I don’t think this is a good fit for Pittsburgh. EK is a treat to watch, but offensive d with limited defensive ability are already on the roster. Big splash that doesn’t change the Penn’s fortunes imho.
saying that the pens have any kind of offensive defenseman on their roster like karlsson seems like a rather large stretch. the most traditional offensive dman they have is not good on the power play. the rebuilt bottom 6 should also allow for more defensive solidity from the forwards to give karlsson more platform to create. in a world with limited options and many constraints it’s hard to think of a more creative attempted solution for the pens obvious problems imo
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Well Karlsson is the best in the business at it, so your right, no one on the roster is comparable. More offense just doesn’t seem to be the need from my vantage point. Maybe that’s just ignorance on my part.
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More offense is exactly what they were missing. Very boring team to watch at times in the past 2 years, Mostly because of a totally terrible bottom 6.
And Letang was basically the only guy who could create anything on the backend, aside from a few Matheson and Petry moments.
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Like who? Unless Smith earns a spot in the lineup, Letang is the only one who anybody in their right mind would call an offensive defenseman and Letang is good defensively.
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This person seems to be under the mistaken impression that Letang isn't good defensively.
Karlsson was exactly what they needed.
The Pens have been missing an elite offensive creator to augment the Big 3 since Kessel left, and needed a big boost for their transition game, zone entries, and PP.
Karlsson does all of that. Who else that was available could do those things?
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Yah, you can say the Pens needed a better supporting cast, but you can't magically make all the wingers 20% better. Or turn Rust into Marner. But adding a guy on the backend who draws attention away from everyone else on the ice with him, and who will play 25 minutes a night vs 19 for a forward, is really a smart way to address the issue.
When is a Norris winner available the year after they win it? The risk here is mostly health, which is a big risk. But we're going out swinging.
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What other players did they really need? The Pens have desperately needed another game breaking to take away pressure from Sid/Geno since Kessel left. What more could you do to improve the team than adding a 100 point Norris D lol.
As for the Pens not needing an offensive D, the system is structured on getting the puck quickly out of the zone which the Pens severely lacked last season. Thats why a guy like Daley was so successful here.
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Pens inability to move the puck out of their zone was probably their single biggest issue after trading Matheson and Marino and they got the generations best OFD for cheaper than Chychrun.
they will come out of the woodwork when Karlsson is -2 in a game.
