Confirmed with Link: Penguins acquire conditional first round pick, three players for Pettersson and O'Connor

[Pens x]

“Oh good, Heinen is coming back”

-no one

 

[Hockey4Lyfe]

I’m not well versed with how protected picks work.

Wouldn’t we want the Rangers to finish 14th this year? I see others want it to go to next year when they could end up much better than 14th. (Would bet on them being better than worse)

 

[BobCole]

This sub is strange,

We can't trade everyone or else we will never be able to hit the cap floor.... we still need to fill out a roster of players. We need to get younger, we need prospects and draft picks, we need to preserve the core and make sure we get them to the playoffs , we need to sell off everything and tear it down.

This trade literally covers everything but the core and playoffs playoffs part which I think most who say that are in jest, I hope anyways,

How can this be perceived by anyone as other than a win? The 1st, a 3rd round Prospect, 2 contracts that are easy to bury or sit for AHL players, getting rid of competent players, who were very inconsistent this season, that may walk at the end of the season for nothing.

I shit on them a lot, but I really hope Doc and Pettersson turn it around for Vancouver and contribute enough to make that a win for them as well. Really like the Canucks, the fan base is insanely fun and chaotic.

keep in mind these contracts coming in won't matter on a team like ours due to the cap going up almost 8 million next year, and potentially 3 retention spots if Dubas doesn't use one by the deadline.

Hear hear. I struggle to see how this is perceived as anything other than a huge W.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

I’m not well versed with how protected picks work.

Wouldn’t we want the Rangers to finish 14th this year? I see others want it to go to next year when they could end up much better than 14th. (Would bet on them being better than worse)

2026 is generally regarded as a far better and deeper draft, so we can probably look at this as a win-win situation. If the Rangers don't go into the tank this season, we have two firsts this year. If they do, we will have two next year.

Hear hear. I struggle to see how this is perceived as anything other than a huge W.

Would you rather have Danton Heinen playing in place of Drew O'Connor, or would you rather have Rutger McGroarty or Ville Koivunen? Also, would you rather have Vincent Desharnais playing in place of Marcus Pettersson or would you rather have Owen Pickering?

The simple and easy answer would be both, of course. Waive Nieto and Shea, recall one of the wingers and Pickering and presto...everybody wins. Except we don't do simple and we don't do logical.

This team does not have to be as bad as they are. We make it hard on ourselves needlessly.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Except we don't do simple and we don't do logical.

This team does not have to be as bad as they are. We make it hard on ourselves needlessly.

Desharnais and Heinen are cap dumps. We wouldn't have gotten a 1st if we hadn't taken them on. Also, winning this year is counterproductive.

 

[BobCole]

2026 is generally regarded as a far better and deeper draft, so we can probably look at this as a win-win situation. If the Rangers don't go into the tank this season, we have two firsts this year. If they do, we will have two next year.



Would you rather have Danton Heinen playing in place of Drew O'Connor, or would you rather have Rutger McGroarty or Ville Koivunen? Also, would you rather have Vincent Desharnais playing in place of Marcus Pettersson or would you rather have Owen Pickering?

The simple and easy answer would be both, of course. Waive Nieto and Shea, recall one of the wingers and Pickering and presto...everybody wins. Except we don't do simple and we don't do logical.

This team does not have to be as bad as they are. We make it hard on ourselves needlessly.

I'm mostly thrilled that we got a first round pick back for MP, and separately I placed tremendously little value on DOC. This trade doesn't preclude us from having a McGroarty, Koivunen or Pickering circling into the lineup.

 

[Andy99]

I can’t give Dubas an A yet for this trade…has to fire Sullivan…if he doesn’t, these picks and moves aren’t worth a hill of beans lol…

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Seems like a win overall getting that 1st.

Also seems like it shows DOC's value isn't anywhere near what some folks thought we could get for him.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Seems like a win overall getting that 1st.

Also seems like it shows DOC's value isn't anywhere near what some folks thought we could get for him.

Most people thought he'd bring back a 3rd and he ended up bringing back a recently drafted 3rd rounder that the Penguins liked. I think he ended up pretty much where most people expected.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

"Fernstrom"

 

[3ladesof5teel]

You are aware the Penguins had Heinen in the past, correct? And we specifically saw him getting healthy scratched for like a quarter of the season and only playing 10 minutes a night?

Sullivan doesn't like Heinen, or he at least didn't like Heinen in his last season here. If Sullivan is playing Heinen over any young guy, it's really not good for the young guy because Sullivan doesn't like Heinen.

Maybe that was the case but my eyes are still burning from seeing him stapled to Geno's hip and some posters justify Heinens advanced stats that he deserved it.

I tend to only remember the bad and the Stick-to-itiveness of Heinen.

It's a name I didn't want to ever see here again......love the 1st coming back.

 

[Ulf5]

I'm mostly thrilled that we got a first round pick back for MP, and separately I placed tremendously little value on DOC. This trade doesn't preclude us from having a McGroarty, Koivunen or Pickering circling into the lineup.

OC is a 4th liner, fill in 3rd liner at best.

 

[The Old Master]

I tend to only remember the bad and the Stick-to-itiveness of Heinen.

It's a name I didn't want to ever see here again......love the 1st coming back.

just look at it this way; we stuck it to sully by getting rid of him last time. and we are going to stick it to sully a 2nd when we get rid of him again.

 

[Ulf5]

just look at it this way; we stuck it to sully by getting rid of him last time. and we are going to stick it to sully a 2nd when we get rid of him again.

Sully did not like Heinen. Maybe initially.
His last 25 games here. 2 games of 10 minutes and change, 15 games under 10 minutes.

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

Yeah, some people's memories are a little foggy. Heinen was not a Sully favorite.

I'm not a big fan of Heinen, but if it's a choice between Heinen and O'Connor, I take Heinen 100 times out of 100.

 

[Darren McCord]

A first and a prospect to boost the pool. Solid deal. You need a lot of 2nd and 3rd lottery tickets in there as well.

People can hate on dubas for the summer of 2023 but since pivoting last year with Jake he has been solid average. Hopefully he can do some more before the deadline.

 

[The Old Master]

Sully did not like Heinen. Maybe initially.
His last 25 games here. 2 games of 10 minutes and change, 15 games View attachment 970863under 10 minutes.

even better! maybe he'll quit.

 

[Darren McCord]

Yeah, some people's memories are a little foggy. Heinen was not a Sully favorite.

I'm not a big fan of Heinen, but if it's a choice between Heinen and O'Connor, I take Heinen 100 times out of 100.

Ya Heinen may not have the speed and size of O'Connor but O'Connor really uses them effectively. Heinen is a better depth scorer.

Its whatever in terms of cap. They have a lot of space and flexibility. I wouldn't resign glass at this point unless he takes a pay cut.

 

[Ulf5]

Yeah, some people's memories are a little foggy. Heinen was not a Sully favorite.

I'm not a big fan of Heinen, but if it's a choice between Heinen and O'Connor, I take Heinen 100 times out of 100.

Yes, Heineken can at least score occasionally.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I still remember when some folks insisted there was nothing wrong with going into the season with DOC on the top line because of some hot final 15 game stretch last season.

As we saw, DOC's not a top line player. He's not even close to a top line player. The fact people were okay with the idea that that top line would be just fine with him there just shows our fanbase has a tendency to overrate small sample sizes of players.

DOC is and always will be a bottom six player. It still makes me cringe to think people defended him as Crosby's winger going into the season as not a big deal.

 

[Pancakes]

A first and a prospect to boost the pool. Solid deal. You need a lot of 2nd and 3rd lottery tickets in there as well.

People can hate on dubas for the summer of 2023 but since pivoting last year with Jake he has been solid average. Hopefully he can do some more before the deadline.

Yeah i think ever since Dubas pivoted his moves have been generally solid to good

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Heinen is a utility winger. Whatever.

Desharnais is a brute. If he can somewhat get it together in Pittsburgh there will be a market for him next season.

 

[Icarium]

This team does not have to be as bad as they are.

Right now it does. The more losses the better. So, let Sully play useless veterans, the more, the better.

If he isn't fired after the end of the season then we have a real problem but for now, I honestly want him to double down on his trademark moves.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

He ain't getting fired, people. Can we get that idea out of our heads?

Why would he get fired now, as opposed to say, oh pick the year since 2017?

Every time we make a move, think of it with Mike Sullivan as the head coach until he wants to retire in mind.

This "tank" does not look nearly as interesting when you put it in those terms.

 

[Icarium]

He ain't getting fired, people. Can we get that idea out of our heads?

Why would he get fired now, as opposed to say, oh pick the year since 2017?

Because the team is far closer to the bottom of the standings than in all those years? Because he hasn't developed a single young player worth more than a late pick since 2017? Because a blind man can see the team is staler than a month old bread?

I mean, it's entirely possible that Dubas and/or the owners can't see all that and will keep Sullivan forever but this is hardly a certainty. At some point someone is bound to wake up and realize 2017 was a long time ago.