PC Building Guide and Discussion #14

[PeteWorrell]

AMD are just scrambling with reviewers mostly giving a thumbs down to Zen 5 and the poor sales reflecting it. Only AMD could fumble this bad while their main competitor are having a massive scandal.

You can expect price cuts in a few months as usual.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

AMD are just scrambling with reviewers mostly giving a thumbs down to Zen 5 and the poor sales reflecting it. Only AMD could fumble this bad while their main competitor are having a massive scandal.

You can expect price cuts in a few months as usual.

I could see new Zen 5 variants come out. Like, we're seeing these the ones that end in X, maybe we will see fixed revisions called XR, while also slowly phasing out the original sets of CPUs.

 

[Osprey]

AMD are just scrambling with reviewers mostly giving a thumbs down to Zen 5 and the poor sales reflecting it. Only AMD could fumble this bad while their main competitor are having a massive scandal.

AMD is now blaming a Windows bug for the performance difference between reviewers' testing and their own testing. They asked HUB to verify, but HUB found that the "fix" made only a 1% difference compared to Zen 4 with the same fix and affects both generations (if not all CPUs), not just Zen 5. If AMD compared Zen 5 with the fix to Zen 4 without it, that could explain where the double-digit performance gains that they claimed came from, but that's either incompetent testing or deceptive marketing. AMD looks bad either way, despite the bug not even being their fault. I bet that Microsoft doesn't mind someone else taking the heat for them, though.

 

[PeteWorrell]

AMD is now blaming a Windows bug for the performance difference between reviewers' testing and their own testing. They asked HUB to verify, but HUB found that the "fix" made only a 1% difference compared to Zen 4 with the same fix and affects both generations (if not all CPUs), not just Zen 5. If AMD compared Zen 5 with the fix to Zen 4 without it, that could explain where the double-digit performance gains that they claimed came from, but that's either incompetent testing or deceptive marketing. AMD looks bad either way, despite the bug not even being their fault. I bet that Microsoft doesn't mind someone else voluntarily taking the heat for their own performance-crippling bug, though.

There is clearly a lack of communication within AMD. Especially the marketing team. Hardware Unboxed shared their disappointing results and they got confirmation that their data matched with AMD's internal testing data within a few percentage.

It's nice that changed their architecture for Zen 5 and it may pay off down the line. But at this moment, it's undercooked and they should have held it back. It's basically the same story of the launch of their new graphics cards and the revolution and performance boost that RDNA 3 was supposed to bring. They overpromised, it underdelivered, the product was overpriced and it made them look bad.

 

[Osprey]

It's wild seeing an average 11% boost in gaming with just a new Windows build. It doesn't improve Zen 5's value much at all, since Zen 4 sees nearly the same boost, but it's still great news for owners of Ryzen (even Zen 3, supposedly).

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Not the first time Ryzen code has had optimization issues with Windows. Which I don't get why it's still happening.