Patriots/NFL Patriots fire Jerod Mayo after dismal 4-13 season

[DKH]

Anyone want to avoid 80 % of the media who covers football average at best

Listen to WEEI Rob Ninkovich from this morning

Outstanding interview

And listen to Boomer Esiason as well

If you don’t like WEEI and won’t listen it’s still early enough to make have an open mind as a New Year Resolution

Wolf made a heck of a deal getting a 3 from Atlanta

I love Judon but his coach called him out for lack of production (good thing he said that in Atlanta not here)

 

[RoccoF14]

Prior to joining the Pats:

2004 - pro personnel asst, Packers
2008 - asst director, pro personnel, Packers
2011 - asst director of player personnel, Packers
2012 - director of pro personnel, Packers
2015 - director of player personnel, Packers
2016 - director football ops, Packers
2018 - asst GM, Browns

Much like Bill Belichick learning the game from his coach father, Eliot grew up learning scouting from Ron. As a kid he attended the combine, and was in the Packer draft room. Mike Sherman gave Eliot his first job with the organization based on that background. The Packers front office at the time was loaded with talent... many guys who would later go on to become GMs with other teams. So the fact that Wolf continued to matriculate up the ranks can be seen as a testament to the quality of his work.

For the Packers and Browns, Wolf was involved in the drafting of: Eddie Lacy, David Bakhtiari, Davante Adams, Kenny Clark, Jamaal Williams, Aaron Ward, Baker Mayfield, Denzel Ward and Nick Chubb.

He’s living off of the name and accomplishments of his father, which is probably why Jonathan Kraft loves him so much….

 

[DKH]

It's so funny to me seeing all these former players or non-local media act confused over Mayo's firing when it's pretty simple. It has very little to do with their actual record and what the expectations were heading into the season. They could have gone 0-17, but as long as the team showed growth throughout the season and didn't embarrass itself on and off the field, it would have been fine and Mayo would still be here. But he couldn't even meet that expectation. He was in over his head, and showed no signs that would change in the future.

I do feel bad for him. It's not like he was going to be a Patriots Hall of Famer, but he was well-regarded among fans, and the past year has destroyed his legacy in New England. Not really sure where his career goes from here. He doesn't seem to have money connections, but I hope someone gives him a chance where he can be an LB coach, and maybe even defensive coordinator in 5-10 years.

So players apparently had feeling it was it and they went all out to win

Mayo should go into college in SEC he could be himself and be a phenomenonal recruiter

So as of now AVP not fired

I’ll take Mcdaniels over him but I think he did very well overall and worse things then him

Stephenson fumbles would make even Ben Johnson or Joe Brady look bad

If Jonathon Corleone is taking over gotta think if he’s trusting of McDaniels it’s him

My vision now would be

Vrabel & Josh

I’d 100% keep Wolf who’s hired a lot of very good scouts last 10 months

I’ve liked his father who was a great GM and the kid should get more then 10 months

He’s living off of the name and accomplishments of his father, which is probably why Jonathan Kraft loves him so much….

Totally disagree here

Apologies

 

[Gee Wally]

 

[yazmybaby]

Mayo was set up to fail from Day one.
No support around him, he did not have the experience or skill set to hand pick his staff and surround himself with experience / proven football leadership.
Kraft spent no money on quality free agents.
Mayo inherited a crappy O line and no legit WR's.
The organization is already a clown show and can only get worse if they start firing everyone else.
The only solution I can see, if we keep Wolf, is to hire a proper seasoned football executive that he has to report to so they can oversee the draft, personnel movement, contracts, etc.
We will still get a decent player at #4, take the best player available IMO.
I expect that the player we draft will be based on who we sign as free agents.
Vrabel seems the logical choice to replace Mayo.

 

[HustleB]

The lack of spending is clearly on ownership. It’s hard to judge anyone else based on that lack of spending. There is no way any football person thought we had a competent OL.

Now Mayo’s word salad issues, Wolf’s draft picks and AVPs play calling left plenty to be desired. But this all falls on ownership and there lack of spending on FA and Football operations. Shame on them. They got what they deserved and I hope the fans hold them accountable until they fully turn it around. It didn’t need to be this bad.

 

[smithformeragent]

Mayo said way too much.

I get that he wanted to be a player's coach and friendly to the media in contrast to his predecessor.

Starting with "We're going to burn cash in free agency." through calling the team soft, or even saying they were going to start Antonio Gibson and then starting Stevenson.

We know that in the past those conversations would have been "We're going to do what's best for our football team." and "I've got to coach it better. We've got to execute better."

There has to be a different approach that maintains a level of professionalism and integrity without looking like a horse's ass in the process.

 

[DKH]

Something didn’t think about but would have had first pick (33) day two and options would have abound

Day 2 first pick will always conjure up the thought of Ros-I Dowling to me and @EverettMike

 

[Johnnyduke]

I suspect the Krafts are prioritizing the HC over GM which a lot of teams do now. Teams hire the coach and let them pick their own personnel guy. If they want Vrabel but Vrabel doesn't want Wolf then Wolf will be out. The scenario I don't want is letting Wolf stay on thru draft only to replace him then. I have heard that happens from time to time in NFL.

 

[sarge88]

What I know about the X's and O's of football you could fit in a thimble -- but I do know this;

If you're OL is good and your QB is good or better --- your team is almost always competitive. Maybe not SB caliber, maybe not even playoff caliber --- but you're in most games and won't go 4-13.

How any NFL GM could have looked at the Pats roster at this time last year and not have made OL the highest priority is beyond me.

 

[EverettMike]

Something didn’t think about but would have had first pick (33) day two and options would have abound

Day 2 first pick will always conjure up the thought of Ros-I Dowling to me and @EverettMike

You can make a convincing argument it's the single worst pick Belichick ever made because the mistakes with the pick went far beyond the player he took.

 

[Johnnyduke]

Some (most?) of these NFL owners should not be running football teams. It makes you wonder how they were successful in the business world to begin with. And of course some were simply born.

The Giants keeping the GM and coach after thinking Daniel Jones was the answer, seeing Barkley go wild with the Eagles etc. I like Daboll but how do you have the two seasons the Giants just had and then do absolutely nothing? Has the Jaguars owner ever gotten ANYTHING right? Jerry Jones gonna run it back with Mike McCarthy again?

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Do your due diligence. Interview Ben Johnson, Vrabel, Flores, Kingsbury, Liam Coen, maybe Joe Brady. Prioritize how they can help Maye become a Super Bowl winning QB. Let them decide who from the coaching and personnel staff stays.

My niece graduated with Kingsbury while she spent time at the Don Newcomb Tennis School.

My pick would be Johnson.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

He chose Bill over Brady.

Hindsight is 20/20

Plenty of people felt Brady made BB before he left.

 

[GordonHowe]

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[4ORRBRUIN]

Plenty of people felt Brady made BB before he left.

Brady WAS the patriots

 

[Troublesome 85]

1st round OT or D
2nd Mathew Golden

Or sign Tee Higgins and wait for a WR later in the draft

Go

OT/D
D/OT

 

[Smitty93]

My niece graduated with Kingsbury while she spent time at the Don Newcomb Tennis School.

My pick would be Johnson.

Mine would be as well, but I wouldn't take the job if I were him. I think after the Mayo debacle they want someone with HC experience.

 

[PeanutButter37]

1st round OT or D
2nd Mathew Golden

Or sign Tee Higgins and wait for a WR later in the draft

Go

OT/D
D/OT

I REALLY like Golden, but he's may be redundant on the Patriots since we have Douglas / Bourne as our top 2 WR and other slot / possession guys ("Z" WR). If they took Golden, I wouldn't be upset though.

Ideally, they need a stretch the field "X" WR. I would like to see the Patriots draft Tre Harris or Elic Ayomanor, if drafting a WR in the 2nd round.

 

[Shaun]

if the coaching process is escalating already it seems we're going to be stuck with wolf and groh which blows

 

[JRull86]

if the coaching process is escalating already it seems we're going to be stuck with wolf and groh which blows

Not really.

It's the same reason they didn't fire the entire staff outside of Mayo, as the AVP report has been confirmed by no one outside of idiot Ben Volin.

Hypothetically they hire Vrabel, he might want to retain some of the existing staff. ST coach Springer first that bill

Same goes for front office.

If Wolf is still here after the draft? Then yeah he's probably staying.

 

[GatorMike]

 

[Johnnyduke]

There's part of me that wouldn't mind seeing guys like Ben Johnson tell the Krafts to get their shit together first and to pound sand. To fire Mayo after that embarrassing introductory press conference is such a bad look for Kraft. Complete dysfunction.

But ya, they will go through a "search" this time and it will be Vrabel. We'll hear how when everyone was wearing Brady jerseys Robert's grandkids wore Vrabel.

As an aside, my problem with the Rooney rule is for situations like this. Everyone "knows" Vrabel is the guy but then the Patriots are forced to go through this facade of interviewing people like Flores and Aaron Glenn. It doesn't seem fair to those guys unless all we are saying is that getting their names out there is a good thing.

 

[ON3M4N]

Mayo was set up to fail from Day one.
No support around him, he did not have the experience or skill set to hand pick his staff and surround himself with experience / proven football leadership.
Kraft spent no money on quality free agents.
Mayo inherited a crappy O line and no legit WR's.
The organization is already a clown show and can only get worse if they start firing everyone else.
The only solution I can see, if we keep Wolf, is to hire a proper seasoned football executive that he has to report to so they can oversee the draft, personnel movement, contracts, etc.
We will still get a decent player at #4, take the best player available IMO.
I expect that the player we draft will be based on who we sign as free agents.
Vrabel seems the logical choice to replace Mayo.

Kraft isn't the GM, he doesn't sign players, he signs checks. They offered Ridley ~$22 million a year and he chose Tennessee who offered him $23 million. They we're willing to pay Aiyuk $30 million a year but Aiyuk didn't want to come to NE.

 

[EverettMike]

There's part of me that wouldn't mind seeing guys like Ben Johnson tell the Krafts to get their shit together first and to pound sand. To fire Mayo after that embarrassing introductory press conference is such a bad look for Kraft. Complete dysfunction.

But ya, they will go through a "search" this time and it will be Vrabel. We'll hear how when everyone was wearing Brady jerseys Robert's grandkids wore Vrabel.

As an aside, my problem with the Rooney rule is for situations like this. Everyone "knows" Vrabel is the guy but then the Patriots are forced to go through this facade of interviewing people like Flores and Aaron Glenn. It doesn't seem fair to those guys unless all we are saying is that getting their names out there is a good thing.

I actually do think this is a legit good thing and does help minority candidates in the long term (gets their name out there while also giving them interview experience), even if it feels sort of gross when a guy like Vrabel seemingly already has the job.