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whatever fits your narrative i guess - to say he hasn't lived up to #1 overall pick expectations is complete idiocy
I never said he did or didn't live up to that, the Olympics just has nothing to do with the NHL and the Leafs. If Makar or MacKinnon don't goof and he doesn't have a Gold.

He'll be a 500 goal scorer within the next 2 seasons, what more can you ask out of a #1 overall pick, realistically? There isn't a GM that wouldn't take that outcome right now from their #1 pick.

This is a Laine thread though and Laine hasn't lived up to HIS potential, Laine looked like a 50 goal scorer and the culture of the Winnipeg Jets locker room seemed to just destroy him as a hockey professional. Maybe he's a decent dude and works as hard as anyone else, it's not like Phil Kessel was known as a workout warrior. He's injury plagued unlike Phil...Who knows what happens, I'd like to see him return to form, big guys ripping one timers is fun hockey to watch. Redemption stories are always good to see.
 
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If Robertson is worth 14 million per season then so is Laine too. Arguably Laine is closer to his peak than Robertson. Rumour has it that his goal scoring is where it was during his 1st season, and add to that his defensive capabilities which he has accrued under many coaches who saw his upside to be that of Hull, Ovechkin, Lemieux and Gretzky.
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15 million per season for 10 Seasons sounds like a win-win for all parties involved.
 
I never said he did or didn't live up to that, the Olympics just has nothing to do with the NHL and the Leafs. If Makar or MacKinnon don't goof and he doesn't have a Gold.

He'll be a 500 goal scorer within the next 2 seasons, what more can you ask out of a #1 overall pick, realistically? There isn't a GM that wouldn't take that outcome right now from their #1 pick.

This is a Laine thread though and Laine hasn't lived up to HIS potential, Laine looked like a 50 goal scorer and the culture of the Winnipeg Jets locker room seemed to just destroy him as a hockey professional. Maybe he's a decent dude and works as hard as anyone else, it's not like Phil Kessel was known as a workout warrior. He's injury plagued unlike Phil...Who knows what happens, I'd like to see him return to form, big guys ripping one timers is fun hockey to watch. Redemption stories are always good to see.
That Winnipeg Jets culture wanted him to work on his game and put the effort to develop into a top NHL player. Laine wanted to play video games instead.
 
That Winnipeg Jets culture wanted him to work on his game and put the effort to develop into a top NHL player. Laine wanted to play video games instead.
Yep, and what did they win in Winnipeg with their methods? Nothing. Walked into the league as a 30 goal scorer and Blake Wheeler who never won anything had to treat him like shit like he did other players because he thought he was head of player development...Good job Blake 👍 Blake and Mark, good job guys, winners! 👍
 
Yep, and what did they win in Winnipeg with their methods? Nothing. Walked into the league as a 30 goal scorer and Blake Wheeler who never won anything had to treat him like shit like he did other players because he thought he was head of player development...Good job Blake 👍 Blake and Mark, good job guys, winners! 👍
Laine drove the overly intense Wheeler crazy. Wheeler worked is ass off single day of his career. He’d see Laine put in a half hearted workout like it was middle school gym class and then go home to play video games all night. It drove him off the edge a bit in his intensity and that is on him. But have no doubt Laine and his lack of commitment to the game was the root cause.
 
Laine drove the overly intense Wheeler crazy. Wheeler worked is ass off single day of his career. He’d see Laine put in a half hearted workout like it was middle school gym class and then go home to play video games all night. It drove him off the edge a bit in his intensity and that is on him. But have no doubt Laine and his lack of commitment to the game was the root cause.
Sure, and they've both won the same amount of cups, that's what Wheeler got out of being an asshole to people. It's the NHL, you're speaking to a legal adult who's a millionaire, if you're not smart enough to see your approach isn't working then it's on you for being committed to operating with blinders on. I have zero respect for what goes on with the Jets as long as goofies that were part of that "culture" are there. Players and management. Not to Mention who in their right mind wants go to live and play in Winnipeg? Freeze your ass off all winter just to get stalked by players who've never won anything in the hallway at work...Detrimental to winning.

Pittsburgh never did any of that shit to Phil when he went there, left him alone, won 2 cups.

I have a doubt, I think Laine's enthusiasm for the game was probably crushed by the Jets "leadership" and management who let him be bothered by people to the point of it becoming public. Why would Laine work harder when it was never good enough? He learned early on that nothing he did was good enough, so back to default, which is scoring goals and making millions...Play hockey, sit out injuries, retire whenever with your attractive wife, and start a family. Easy does it. Why do the extra just so some asshole who never won anything like Blake Wheeler can tell you it's not enough?
 
Sure, and they've both won the same amount of cups, that's what Wheeler got out of being an asshole to people. It's the NHL, you're speaking to a legal adult who's a millionaire, if you're not smart enough to see your approach isn't working then it's on you for being committed to operating with blinders on. I have zero respect for what goes on with the Jets as long as goofies that were part of that "culture" are there. Players and management. Not to Mention who in their right mind wants go to live and play in Winnipeg? Freeze your ass off all winter just to get stalked by players who've never won anything in the hallway at work...Detrimental to winning.

Pittsburgh never did any of that shit to Phil when he went there, left him alone, won 2 cups.

I have a doubt, I think Laine's enthusiasm for the game was probably crushed by the Jets "leadership" and management who let him be bothered by people to the point of it becoming public. Why would Laine work harder when it was never good enough? He learned early on that nothing he did was good enough, so back to default, which is scoring goals and making millions...Play hockey, sit out injuries, retire whenever with your attractive wife, and start a family. Easy does it. Why do the extra just so some asshole who never won anything like Blake Wheeler can tell you it's not enough?
Not sure how you just make so much up out of thin air, but I guess go for it if that is your thing. No need to discuss further.
 
Laine drove the overly intense Wheeler crazy. Wheeler worked is ass off single day of his career. He’d see Laine put in a half hearted workout like it was middle school gym class and then go home to play video games all night. It drove him off the edge a bit in his intensity and that is on him. But have no doubt Laine and his lack of commitment to the game was the root cause.

It’s amazing how Laine was the problem in Winnipeg yet the problems only got worse once he left and Wheeler had his C taken off
 
It’s amazing how Laine was the problem in Winnipeg yet the problems only got worse once he left and Wheeler had his C taken off
Though he had his best years in WPG. Wheeler might have been an asshole but whatever he did to Laine it worked, the kid broke records.
 
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It’s amazing how Laine was the problem in Winnipeg yet the problems only got worse once he left and Wheeler had his C taken off
How did the problem get worse? Maybe with Wheeler, but at that time a new leadership group with Lowry and Morrissey at the front started to take over which eventually led to Wheeler’s removal as captain. The team as a whole started to became tight and probably more than a relieved Laine was no longer their problem.
 
I gueantee you if Laine stayed in Winnipeg he would have been a better player and ultimately made more $$$. Instead he asked to be traded, the Jets accomodated that request and that started his downfall.
 
An underrated place for Laine is Colorado because MacKinnon could feel him some nice passes and could put in a lot of goals and also would have a playmaking defenseman like Makar.

I could see him being a Panther too at a discount which is far more likely.

But man would I love him back in Winnipeg!
 
Whats that guys name that covered Montreal for TSN...... John Lu

he had quotes showing they tried to "hide" laine in the lineup

Previously you could have that, not in todays in NHL

He's unplayable 5v5, he had a case as being the worst 5v5 player in the league at a few points
 
An underrated place for Laine is Colorado because MacKinnon could feel him some nice passes and could put in a lot of goals and also would have a playmaking defenseman like Makar.

I could see him being a Panther too at a discount which is far more likely.

But man would I love him back in Winnipeg!
MacKinnon would absolutely destroy Laine. This would be horrible.
 
An underrated place for Laine is Colorado because MacKinnon could feel him some nice passes and could put in a lot of goals and also would have a playmaking defenseman like Makar.

I could see him being a Panther too at a discount which is far more likely.

But man would I love him back in Winnipeg!
Nothing against Laine the person bc I don't know him, but as far as a hockey player goes I would sooner see him fired off into the sun before being forced to take him back on the Jets even if he came free.
 

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