Player Discussion Patrik Laine

[Non Player Canadiens]

Patrik Laine thread 88 pages and counting. Has never played a regular season game.

 

[Habby4Life]

WOW indeed. You've proven nothing. bye

My bad, I should have chosen simple words and used much shorter sentences, lol.

 

[Habs13]

In order for the Habs to have been a potential playoff team this year, we needed both Dach and Laine to be healthy all year and productive. This isn't going to be the case now and the season hasn't even started. So regardless if Laine plays 6 games or 12 games or even 20 games - it's not enough to make a difference. As of right now, this is going to be yet another nothing season.

I won't even get into the Michkov thing. I've said said on that already.

 

[HuGort]

Hopefully this learns Hughes lesson investing in injury prone players. statically you know odds high he's going to continue to be injured. Laine been injured 4 straight years. Gives Kapanen a spot but losing 9 million in caproom when rosters set is painful. Very poor asset management.

 

[ReHabs]

Hopefully this learns Hughes lesson investing in injury prone players. statically you know odds high he's going to continue to be injured. Laine been injured 4 straight years. Gives Kapanen a spot but losing 9 million in caproom when rosters set is painful. Very poor asset management.

We got paid to take Laine and had zero other options in which to invest that 9m in cap space.

In fact we had zero plans to use Carey Price’s cap hit either.

It was terrific asset management.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Hopefully this learns Hughes lesson investing in injury prone players. statically you know odds high he's going to continue to be injured. Laine been injured 4 straight years. Gives Kapanen a spot but losing 9 million in caproom when rosters set is painful. Very poor asset management.

You must be dizzy from all that spin

 

[Murky]

Hopefully this learns Hughes lesson investing in injury prone players. statically you know odds high he's going to continue to be injured. Laine been injured 4 straight years. Gives Kapanen a spot but losing 9 million in caproom when rosters set is painful. Very poor asset management.

Last year it really was for a late blind side hit to his head that derailed his good start. This year it was a hit to a knee. He is injury prone, but not that injury prone. He has been a ppg player with very little support for a while. It was well worth the risk.

 

[River Meadow]

Hopefully this learns Hughes lesson investing in injury prone players. statically you know odds high he's going to continue to be injured. Laine been injured 4 straight years. Gives Kapanen a spot but losing 9 million in caproom when rosters set is painful. Very poor asset management.

It's very difficult to avoid all risk.

In hindsight it's easy to say these things. You also have to factor what we gave up for the potential return/reward. It was well worth it, IMO.

If Laine pots 35-40goals then he looks like a genius (which he technically could still potentially do, if not this year then next).

 

[26Mats]

Hopefully this learns Hughes lesson investing in injury prone players. statically you know odds high he's going to continue to be injured. Laine been injured 4 straight years. Gives Kapanen a spot but losing 9 million in caproom when rosters set is painful. Very poor asset management.

We weren't using that money anyways this year. We'll see if we're losing out next year...

That Columbus 2nd in 2026 will be fire. Really glad we got it...

Have to see the whole picture of this trade, i.e. if/when Laine gets healthy what he does. I like this trade so much I still like it even though Laine's blown out his knee. Hopefully he gets back to 100% and comes back even hungrier for hockey. We've heard a lot about how he just wants to make sure he's happy, ok with his mental health. Next year I want to hear more he just wants to play hockey because he's so hungry for hockey and will appreciate every second he gets to play, and compete, and help the team win.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

We weren't using that money anyways this year. We'll see if we're losing out next year...

That Columbus 2nd in 2026 will be fire. Really glad we got it...

Have to see the whole picture of this trade, i.e. if/when Laine gets healthy what he does. I like this trade so much I still like it even though Laine's blown out his knee. Hopefully he gets back to 100% and comes back even hungrier for hockey. We've heard a lot about how he just wants to make sure he's happy, ok with his mental health. Next year I want to hear more he just wants to play hockey because he's so hungry for hockey and will appreciate every second he gets to play, and compete, and help the team win.

We'll have plenty of cap space next year, between contracts running out (savard, armia, dvo), salary retentions running out (petry, allen) and the cap going up, we'll have 15.5m + cap raise, minus 6.5 mil for Slaf's raise

Even if we were to re-sign Savard, we're looking at around 10 mil in cap space. Quite enough to sign whoever we want, again.

 

[417]

We'll have plenty of cap space next year, between contracts running out (savard, armia, dvo), salary retentions running out (petry, allen) and the cap going up, we'll have 15.5m + cap raise, minus 6.5 mil for Slaf's raise

Even if we were to re-sign Savard, we're looking at around 10 mil in cap space. Quite enough to sign whoever we want, again.

This assumes the free agent market will be appealing.

I keep saying it, but every year, the free agent market gets worse and worse. Just look whose available right now, in 3-6 months, the best names won't be anymore.

Unless people actually think a guy like Rantanen is going to hit the market. I'd be shocked.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Hope all you soyboys can handle the news tomorrow. God speed, drink your Pumpkin Spiced Latte's carefully tomorrow so you don't burn your lips in disbelief when the Laine alerts hit the interwebs.

Just remember we will still have Gallagher, Armia, Anderson and Evans to lead us to victory plus Michkov. Oh wait.

I see that you aren't taking this very well

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Hopefully this learns Hughes lesson investing in injury prone players. statically you know odds high he's going to continue to be injured. Laine been injured 4 straight years. Gives Kapanen a spot but losing 9 million in caproom when rosters set is painful. Very poor asset management.

*investing* is a big word , considering we gave up nothing for him , the cap space is irrelevant , its still a rebuild year , did you want us to get two useless UFA vets that do nothing for us instead?

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Hope all you soyboys can handle the news tomorrow. God speed, drink your Pumpkin Spiced Latte's carefully tomorrow so you don't burn your lips in disbelief when the Laine alerts hit the interwebs.

Just remember we will still have Gallagher, Armia, Anderson and Evans to lead us to victory plus Michkov. Oh wait.

Here is not reddit

 

[26Mats]

I appreciate your point in earnest, but if anyone likes all of these players then they shouldn't be expecting more losing of the last three seasons' nature.

Yes, it's tough on the players. But there is greater good ahead. Hey, we'll see if Oliver Kapanen, or Ro, is ready to make the second line a good one.

 

[junyab]

Literally not what I said. People act like a rebuild is some sacred ceremony and only once you truly decide that you're rebuilding, you're rebuilding.

It's not. You can stumble into a rebuild and that's pretty much what Bergevin did

The fact of the matter is MB didn't start a rebuild at any point in his tenure. Just because he made the team garbage and dropped in the standings doesn't mean they were in a rebuild. You need to make a stronger case than just the Patches trade (which you know why he was traded) and the team was trash.

 

[junyab]

The core?

You mean 2017 draftee #1C Suzuki?
Or 2019 draftees Dach, Caufield and Newhook?
2020 draftee #1 D Guhle?

Someone tell this guy we draft kids every year.