Marioesque
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If the same thing that happened to Kovalev when he arrived in Montreal can happen to Laine, we are in for a treat. He may not score 50 but will it ever be exciting!This is really where you want to set the bar for Laine? Top 5 player in the league? I think you’re setting yourself up for disappointment.
I’d be happy if he’s a consistent 30+ goal scorer that fits into the system, and plays a decent 2-way game. Anything more is gravy…
God I've always wanted to sign this guy too
MSL reminds me a little bit of Denis Savard in Chicago. Was a coach the players liked, helped them threw the tough years and helped get the competitive, then the team moved on to someone more experienced when they were truly ready to compete and they won 3 cups.I have a feeling even if he isn't the guy that takes us all the way in the end he'll still be remembered fondly
More experienced like Michel the boss Therrien or Alain Vigneault?MSL reminds me a little bit of Denis Savard in Chicago. Was a coach the players liked, helped them threw the tough years and helped get the competitive, then the team moved on to someone more experienced when they were truly ready to compete and they won 3 cups.
MSL reminds me a little bit of Denis Savard in Chicago. Was a coach the players liked, helped them threw the tough years and helped get the competitive, then the team moved on to someone more experienced when they were truly ready to compete and they won 3 cups.
Savard was nowhere near the student of the game MSL is. I expect “MSL effect” will start kicking in full force this upcoming season, starting with significantly improved PP + PKMSL reminds me a little bit of Denis Savard in Chicago. Was a coach the players liked, helped them threw the tough years and helped get the competitive, then the team moved on to someone more experienced when they were truly ready to compete and they won 3 cups.
I was thinking more of Felipe Alou.MSL reminds me a little bit of Denis Savard in Chicago. Was a coach the players liked, helped them threw the tough years and helped get the competitive, then the team moved on to someone more experienced when they were truly ready to compete and they won 3 cups.
Pascal Vincent is next up in the rotation, followed by Andre TourignyMore experienced like Michel the boss Therrien or Alain Vigneault?
MSL reminds me a little bit of Denis Savard in Chicago. Was a coach the players liked, helped them threw the tough years and helped get the competitive, then the team moved on to someone more experienced when they were truly ready to compete and they won 3 cups.
Not to derail the thread to much more, but as much as Marty is a great players coach, I think he gets overrated a fair bit by our fanbase because of his likability when it comes to the X’s and O’s of the game. He’s definitely learning, but I don’t see him as a coach that shows exceptional potential either. He’s perfect for what we need now which is all that matters but I don’t see him being the answer when it’s actually time to compete. But maybe I’m off on that.Savard was nowhere near the student of the game MSL is. I expect “MSL effect” will start kicking in full force this upcoming season, starting with significantly improved PP + PK
Longterm I expect MSL to follow Jacques Lemaire route, grow tired of Mtl media demands, and leave for another org - likely coaching NYR closer to home
Maybe the focus wasn't X's and O's just yet and he focused on player development instead.Not to derail the thread to much more, but as much as Marty is a great players coach, I think he gets overrated a fair bit by our fanbase because of his likability when it comes to the X’s and O’s of the game. He’s definitely learning, but I don’t see him as a coach that shows exceptional potential either. He’s perfect for what we need now which is all that matters but I don’t see him being the answer when it’s actually time to compete. But maybe I’m off on that.
Structure definitely needs to be a priority because for the better part of two years we've been flying by the seat of our pants. I have no problem with that being the initial plan but if that continues, then it's an issue. We've already heard talk of playing less man to man in our own zone so hopefully there's also an alternative plan/structure put in place offensively as well.Maybe the focus wasn't X's and O's just yet and he focused on player development instead.
They said the team was now in a different phase the rebuild and the expectation is to be better defensively. Perhaps he'll now focus more on X's and O's.
I keep saying he needs a vet assistant to compensate on the X's and O's, bench management, line matching part. Not all coaches are excellent on all aspects, it's also about building a coaching staff with different strengths.Not to derail the thread to much more, but as much as Marty is a great players coach, I think he gets overrated a fair bit by our fanbase because of his likability when it comes to the X’s and O’s of the game. He’s definitely learning, but I don’t see him as a coach that shows exceptional potential either. He’s perfect for what we need now which is all that matters but I don’t see him being the answer when it’s actually time to compete. But maybe I’m off on that.
Not to derail the thread to much more, but as much as Marty is a great players coach, I think he gets overrated a fair bit by our fanbase because of his likability when it comes to the X’s and O’s of the game. He’s definitely learning, but I don’t see him as a coach that shows exceptional potential either. He’s perfect for what we need now which is all that matters but I don’t see him being the answer when it’s actually time to compete. But maybe I’m off on that.
But what has he done that qualifies him as an exception of the rule? The team looks like they’re playing glorified pond hockey most nights. Like I said above, I think he’s a great players coach. We see players get attached to bad players coaches all the time. But at some point soon there will be expectations placed on the team and that changes how he will be evaluated. It’s hard giving him potential exceptional status, which a lot of our fans do, before he’s even got the team into playoff contention. That’s all my point was.IMO, you are. Marty's a quick study who is constantly trying to get better and we haven't seen a fully experienced version of him. Judging him by how he's been in his first two seasons is a bit premature.
I disagree with the notion that he's simply here in the interim. HuGo hired him to grow with the team. All great coaches are the actual captains of their team and Marty already fits that role to a T. His crew will go to war for him. If they need someone for better X and O's, they'll simply add someone rather than replace someone the players see as one of their own.
Elite players rarely make good coaches, but I feel MSL is the exception to the rule.
MSL reminds me a little bit of Denis Savard in Chicago. Was a coach the players liked, helped them threw the tough years and helped get the competitive, then the team moved on to someone more experienced when they were truly ready to compete and they won 3 cups.
I agree that Laine might not after all work the best with a too puck dominant centerman. Still depends on the centers passing ability though. I think the best combo with Laine would be a center with good two way play and excellent hockey IQ and quick and accurate passing skills. Something like Barkov would be ideal, but Suzuki could be great also. Not sure about Dach yet, but I won’t definitely mind if they work great together after all. The other winger for Laine works the best if he can do puck retrieving really well, and has better than average passing skills.I initially thought so too. Sure, I've seen Laine play a bunch, but the more I read about his playing style, it seems clear to many that he does not just go to the quiet areas and shoot, he wants to carry to puck and dictate the play.
The quoted video also has a similar take, so playing Laine with Dach who is also fairly puck-dominant, likely won't work unless Marty can get Laine to see things differently.
Personally, I feel if Laine plays with Suzuki, they can feed off each other, as Suzuki also likes to slow the play down at times and is more of a shooting treat, compared to Dach.