Value of: Patrick Maroon's next contract?

[kmo429]

It'll probably look a lot like a Matt Beleskey contract, and it'll be a mistake.

 

[rockinghockey]

GM has to realize that he is a good fit with McD but take into account he is getting more points playing with McD.
Have to take into consideration his age, bad enough we gave Lucic too many yrs

 

[PuckG]

Easy, trade Schartz or Fabbri to the Penguins for a pick. Then you have room for Maroon

Forget the Penguins. Lets just do a straight swap this offseason.

 

[DJJones]

Anything over 3M would be a giant mistake.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Anything over 3M would be a giant mistake.

And if he wasn't an Oiler would it still be a "giant mistake"?

I agree that 3 million is about the maximum that I would say he has earned, but if he were to get 3.25 per year for 3 years while still scoring 30ish goals next year with McDavid, how is that a "giant mistake"? Slight overpay? Maybe. But it's not like there is any risk of a team Bobby Holiking the Big Rig, so I don't see how this "giant mistake" would come into play.

 

[Skippy73]

Similar to what Beleskey got I would assume?

 

[Disgraced Cosmonaut]

3 years 10 million. Wouldn't offer a penny more. If someone wants to pay more, good luck.

Agree. There are any number of guys out there that will walk into 25 goals with McD.
If he's bright, he'll do a two year 8m deal. Try to hit paydirt in his early thirties. Then, having banked 8m he'll be able to take the risk.

 

[seafoam]

His UFA comparable (complimentary 2nd line winger) is probably Boedker who got 4x4, so I'll go with that.
If he leaves Edmonton, he needs to be paired with a center that can drive the play. He's not a guy that can do it alone, but he plays his role well.

He strikes me as one of those guys that won't live up to the contract if he goes elsewhere. Most teams don't have a 2C as good as Draisatl, and I can't imagine most teams signing Maroon to play on their 1st line.

It's closer to Beleskey than Boedker styistically but I believe he also got 4 x 4.

 

[DJJones]

And if he wasn't an Oiler would it still be a "giant mistake"?

I agree that 3 million is about the maximum that I would say he has earned, but if he were to get 3.25 per year for 3 years while still scoring 30ish goals next year with McDavid, how is that a "giant mistake"? Slight overpay? Maybe. But it's not like there is any risk of a team Bobby Holiking the Big Rig, so I don't see how this "giant mistake" would come into play.

I'll give oilers props if they trade him next year or let him walk.

They'll regret it if not

 

[Aceboogie]

And if he wasn't an Oiler would it still be a "giant mistake"?

I agree that 3 million is about the maximum that I would say he has earned, but if he were to get 3.25 per year for 3 years while still scoring 30ish goals next year with McDavid, how is that a "giant mistake"? Slight overpay? Maybe. But it's not like there is any risk of a team Bobby Holiking the Big Rig, so I don't see how this "giant mistake" would come into play.

When was the last time a 25-30 goal scorer being paid 3mil was ever a bad decision, even if they were benefitting a ton from a superstar player

Id gladly pay Maroon 3 mil. In fact that be a tremendous contract

 

[Spazkat]

When was the last time a 25-30 goal scorer being paid 3mil was ever a bad decision, even if they were benefitting a ton from a superstar player

Id gladly pay Maroon 3 mil. In fact that be a tremendous contract

Yes, because giving a guy a big contract when in their 7th NHL year they suddenly double their best previous production is always a good plan.

 

[DJJones]

See bouma on the flames for overpaying guys like this

 

[Aceboogie]

Yes, because giving a guy a big contract when in their 7th NHL year they suddenly double their best previous production is always a good plan.

When did 3 mil become a big pay day lmao. Currently 313 players make over 3 mil. Must be pretty risky to pay Maroon, a guy succeeding the top line, a long the likes of Carl Gunnarsson, Adam Mcquaid, Leo Komarov, Jamie MgGinn, Marcus Kruger

See bouma on the flames for overpaying guys like this

Pat Maroon has scored more goals during his 1.5 years as an Oiler than Lance Bouma has in his entire career in the NHL. Dont compare an Acura SUV to a friggen Ford Pinto

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

When was the last time a 25-30 goal scorer being paid 3mil was ever a bad decision, even if they were benefitting a ton from a superstar player

Id gladly pay Maroon 3 mil. In fact that be a tremendous contract

Uh, well he turns 29 next month and remove this career year playing with the best young player in the NHL, his career averages equate to 12 goals per 82 games.

If you hand him any sort of sizeable cap hit, youre married to playing him next to McDavid for the duration of that contract or it becomes a massive overpayment. Thats also contingent that he keeps this sort of production up down the line, even next to McDavid

 

[Spazkat]

When did 3 mil become a big pay day lmao. Currently 313 players make over 3 mil. Must be pretty risky to pay Maroon, a guy succeeding the top line, a long the likes of Carl Gunnarsson, Adam Mcquaid, Leo Komarov, Jamie MgGinn, Marcus Kruger

3M is a lot for a guy that had to have partial retention to get anyone to take his 2M contract last year. You're banking on what is statistically a big outlier season for him to become the norm.

 

[Mr Positive]

3M is a lot for a guy that had to have partial retention to get anyone to take his 2M contract last year. You're banking on what is statistically a big outlier season for him to become the norm.

It wouldn't be that much of an outlier. He's not UFA until 2018, so that would be 2 seasons and 16 games producing at that pace, all while being an imposing power forward.

If he had that kind of status his whole career, he'd be getting 5+million with a NMC, taking him to age 34-36

Honestly, I think Chiarelli will wait until his deal is up just to limit the risk and also to keep close tabs on cap spending. So we would have that 2 year + span to judge. It's likely to be 4.5 AAV (assuming cap increases until then), for 3 years or so.

 

[Aceboogie]

3M is a lot for a guy that had to have partial retention to get anyone to take his 2M contract last year. You're banking on what is statistically a big outlier season for him to become the norm.

Is it tho? I mean I dont believe hes a 25-30 goal scorer on his own and clearly influenced by McDavid. But in 85 games with the Oilers he has 30 goals. That also included last year where he scored 8 goals in 16 games. Most guys on a outlier year will cool off in the second year. Maroon did slightly but not all that much.

Comparisons to Matt Moulson are pretty good. But Moulson signed for 5 mil, not 3 mil. ANY 25-30 goal scorer signed for 3 mil is a good contract. Regardless of who the center is. Its tough to find a great fit for those franchise centers. Just ask Crosby who has cycled through numerous snipers brought in to be his winger (Neal, Iggy, Perron just a few).

Further to Moulson comparison. Moulson scored 30 goals 4 times with Tavares. Since Moulson left, the highest any winger would score with Tavares is Okposo with 22 goals one time. Im betting Islanders really wish they could have kept Moulson and got him for 3 mil. I am not blind to the fact Maroon benefits massively from McDavid. But people are also a bit blind to the benefit a guy like Maroon can bring to McDavid as a steady linemate who can be a good fit.

 

[Aceboogie]

Uh, well he turns 29 next month and remove this career year playing with the best young player in the NHL, his career averages equate to 12 goals per 82 games.

If you hand him any sort of sizeable cap hit, youre married to playing him next to McDavid for the duration of that contract or it becomes a massive overpayment. Thats also contingent that he keeps this sort of production up down the line, even next to McDavid

Again. Its. 3. million. Over 300 players make 3 million in the NHL. Lets not try and act like 3 million is some major cap hit that hes gotta really prove it to be worth it. If you could sign him for 2 or 3 years at 3 million, especially after 2 and a bit years meshing with McDavid- youd be an idiot not to

 

[BlueDream]

It's irrelevant whether Maroon wants to go to StL. The one position that the Blues absolutely do not need is LW. StL already has Steen, Schwartz, Fabbri, and Perron.

I mean, yeah, but Doug Armstrong literally just acquired a LW in the Shattenkirk trade so that doesn't look to be stopping him. And he likes size.

Plus it's March 2017. In July 2018 when Maroon is a UFA things could be different.

Just saying. Way too early to say what will happen either way.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

maroon has alot of similarity to pouliot and a guy like rene bourque... bryan bickell... dustin penner

guys who can be useful when they work hard... stay in shape... are playing for a contract

but

can be completely utterly useless if they decide they are going to go for a skate for the next 76 games

on a 1 year deal for low money gambling on these guys can pay off huge. sadly giving one of them a long term deal guarantees you a hole in your lineup

maroon could prove me wrong but theres a reason anaheim ate his contract to dump him. this guy can become a ghost

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Chiarelli would be smart to sign him half way through next season, Maroon started hot and cooled way way way down. Now if he cools down to start next season and that cooling off lasts all year, any potential extension would make him look like an idiot. This has the potential to be Dustin Penner 2.0, without the longer track record of production.

 

[snipes]

I'd be good with max 3 years on a 2-3.5Mish/year deal.

In terms of motivation, if riding shotgun with the best player in the world isn't motivation from a pure hockey perspective, not sure what would motivate him. He's also got endorsement/business opportunities playing in a hockey crazed market.

He's already got a Big Rig clothing line going, there's some spin off revenue for him playing in a Canadian market and playing beside 97. Especially if this team goes on some playoff runs and gets more exposure.

 

[Boud]

I'd be good with max 3 years on a 2-3.5Mish/year deal.

In terms of motivation, if riding shotgun with the best player in the world isn't motivation from a pure hockey perspective, not sure what would motivate him. He's also got endorsement/business opportunities playing in a hockey crazed market.

He's already got a Big Rig clothing line going, there's some spin off revenue for him playing in a Canadian market and playing beside 97. Especially if this team goes on some playoff runs and gets more exposure.

Having his son close to him in St-Louis would be without a doubt the biggest motivator, even bigger than McDavid.

Family>>>>>> Hockey.

 

[Fazkovsky]

I thought maroon sucked according to doughty

 

[snipes]

Having his son close to him in St-Louis would be without a doubt the biggest motivator, even bigger than McDavid.

Family>>>>>> Hockey.

Honestly, if he chose that over Edmonton I would be fine with it. Maroon obviously loves his kid and is involved in his life (we all saw the interview).

If it came down to his son over the Oilers, I'd wish him nothing but the best and buy his Blues jersey. He's a likeable guy, there's a reason he's a fan favourite. It's not just about his on the ice play.