Value of: Patrick Kane to NYR.

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bernmeister

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Kane is insanely good, I don't understand how people are underestimating him. He's easily worth 2 1st's and a b prospect to a good team.

This would be with retention of about 3 mil through the next 2 years.

Issue is not how good he is/isn't
It's the opportunity cost of dealing w/first things first, our young core, and we need effin cap room for that, and if we ignore that now it will cost us a lot more one way or another to get it.

A Kane or any other high end add is ONLY a good idea if NYR has not just blue chips [sufficient for its own needs] but a legit surplus of them. That is not the case. And even then, you must still be able to juggle cap.
Breadman is worth every penny.
Trouba is productive, but it's not that he is worth 6.5 of his 8, it's that his number is 8 in a hard cap situation.

While I would listen with an open mind just in case somebody can surprise me, I don't see any big salary deal to NY unless Trouba waives, which won't happen this yr. Next season if we are lucky.


Are you high?
 

VainGretzky

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Kane is insanely good, I don't understand how people are underestimating him. He's easily worth 2 1st's and a b prospect to a good team.

This would be with retention of about 3 mil through the next 2 years.
He is worth more than that
 

Alexander the Gr8

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No way the Hawks trade away one of their best players of all time while he is still productive. They certainly wouldn't trade him for NYR's leftovers and middle of the pack draft picks.

I don't see the fit for NYR either, they're supposed to be a dangerous team offensively with Panarin, Zibanejad and others.
 

One Winged Angel

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Patrick Kane makes zero sense for the Rangers. On the wrong side of 30 and a huge cap hit and that’s not even mentioning what the asking price might be.

No thanks.

I’d explore a trade for Dylan Strome depending on what the asking price would be.
 

BB88

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You're not seriously asking me if I was comparing Strome to those players are you?

It was clearly meant to refute the claim that Strome wasn't a solid asset...

He’s really not as a trade asset.
 

NJ DevLolz

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Ryan Strome had a higher PPG average last season than Brayden Point, Jack Eichel, Evgeni Malkin, Mathew Barzal, and Elias Pettersson

And Kravtsov is a speedy 21 year old winger with loads of offensive potential


You don't have to like the proposal, but it serves no purpose to be disingenuous about the value of the incoming players
Your offer was one of the worst serious offers I’ve seen on this website. Congrats on the achievement
 

bernmeister

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Patrick Kane makes zero sense for the Rangers. On the wrong side of 30 and a huge cap hit and that’s not even mentioning what the asking price might be.

No thanks.

I’d explore a trade for Dylan Strome depending on what the asking price would be.

Agree except last sentence.
We are already looking to unload one Strome we can't afford, we should not be adding the other.
 

Joe Scaduto

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Now with the circumstances in Chicago .Kane may ask for a trade to get away from the turmoil and allegations .Plus the team struggles and that things don't look promising with the current standings .He may ask to be traded to a contender or a team with more upside.
NYR
Patrick Kane
Dylan Strome

CHI
2022 1st round pick and 2nd round pick
2023 1st round pick and 3rd round pick
Chris Krieder
 
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Now with the circumstances in Chicago .Kane may ask for a trade to get away from the turmoil and allegations .Plus the team struggles and that things don't look promising with the current standings .He may ask to be traded to a contender or a team with more upside.
NYR
Patrick Kane
Dylan Strome

CHI
2022 1st round pick and 2nd round pick
2023 1st round pick and 3rd round pick
Chris Krieder
That price is a little too steep on draft picks. If NYR were trading for Kane, I'd imagine prospects were included. I don't think they trade away Kreider. Organization seems to love him. What's Strome's value in this trade?
 

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The Trouba contract, huh?
If Trouba current play (under a new coach) continues through-out the season, we won't be too concerned with the cap hit, at least for now. He's been very good. If it doesn't continue, yeah, we'll be back to pounding our fist at that one.
 
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Glen Sathers Cigar

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Kane is insanely good, I don't understand how people are underestimating him. He's easily worth 2 1st's and a b prospect to a good team.

This would be with retention of about 3 mil through the next 2 years.
I'd make a deal similar to that.

2022 1st round pick, 2023 2nd round pick and Kravtsov for Kane @ 7m ?

Or maybe a lesser prospect than Kravtsov in the deal and 2 1st rounders?

Is there any possibility at all of Kane being available? I feel like if Chicago was going to trade him (or Toews) they wouldn't have made some of their recent moves but with a new GM you never know. Still think Kane isn't going anywhere.
 

bernmeister

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But he was a 5OA pick. Ryan looks good in your colors.

Your insistence on being contrarian to anything I say does not augur well for you.

Math does not lie.
Neither Strome is affordable beyond this season.
Deal him or he walks a la Tavares for nothing.

End of story.
Admit that. Capitulate to that reality.
 

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I'd rather acquire Toews. NYR could use his faceoff, PK prowess, and leadership.

Chytil
Kravtsov
2022 1st
2022 2nd

the 2022 2nd becomes a 2023 first if Chi retains some.

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