Part 2- 2015 Draft - or ALL prior draft discussion here
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they also draft max Paccioretti in 07. people complain about the 2015 but we shat the bed in 07. we took zach hamill and tommy cross with our 1st two picks. that draft could have changed our future more then 2015.
Over the volcano
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Nice - though McDonagh never played for them.
The Bruins pulled Lindgren along with McAvoy too in 16 - could have had 5/6 of a defense from just two consecutive drafts...
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MattFromFranklin
Fire Sweeney and Neely
The level of stupidity displayed throughout this video is amazing
RussellmaniaKW
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agree about Konecny. He's not one of the guys I pine after. Personally Boeser is one of the guys I'd want if we had a do over, but the easiest answer is just the Barzal/Connor/Chabot trio that were the next 3 picks after Boston whiffed with Senyshyn.
As for your analogy you're definitely understating the dropoff from what could have been to what was. It's more like being sad that you won a million bucks when you could have won a billion.
Basically, they could have drafted 3 guys in the first round that would have made up much of their core for the next 10 years AND still had the chance to draft Carlo and Lauzon. Instead they got a defenseman who I'd put at a 50/50 chance to stick with the team, a RW bust, and a complementary LW piece. The 2nd round really saved the draft for them, but again, you could have done much, much better in the first round and still had those 2nd round picks.
Barzal, Chabot, Connor, Carlo, Lauzon
vs
Debrusk, Zboril, Senyshyn, Carlo, Lauzon
that's a way bigger difference than the $5k that your analogy implies.
RussellmaniaKW
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Gryz-McAvoy
Chabot-Carlo
Lindgren-Lauzon
it's honestly a real bummer to think about what could have been if they had drafted better & managed their assets better. And that's not to say they drafted poorly. But it could have been sooooo much better and it's all on them.
Yeah I get that the drop-off might be larger than $5k, but my point still stands at this boards inability to enjoy what they have and instead constantly think about what could have been.
Jean_Jacket41
Neely = HOF
One top-6 goal scoring winger.
50% of the top-6 on D.
Not too bad for the worst draft in humanity.
50% of the top-6 on D.
Not too bad for the worst draft in humanity.
I already have trouble dealing with the past. Now I relive this. More Coors tonight. Plus I’m watching Romanov in Montreal guys good. Real good. Time to hit the rum.
Kegs
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They actually came out of that draft with more
Nhl players then any other team I believe.
UncleRico
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bruins had 3 picks in the top 15, no other team had more than 1. Bruins also had six picks in the top 52, one other team had 4 and a few teams had three.
by all accounts they should have the most NHL players.
MattFromFranklin
Fire Sweeney and Neely
Agreed. Anyone trying to spin this draft into being very good is just being disingenuous. Our 2nd round looks to be pretty good, but the 1st Round is nothing but an "F." Zboril was a blown evaluation (it happens), Senyshyn was an atrocious pick from the start, and although DeBrusk is a "hit," he was a reach and nowhere near the BPA and was taken over vastly superior players (both at the time and now), and thus was a mismanaged pick. We failed to take the BPA (let alone the 2-3 BPA) in every selection.
The Flyers and Isles each had 2 1st round picks and they hit on more players in the 1st round than we did, even though all 3 of our picks were higher than all but one (Philly's first pick) of theirs. Not only that, but you could make a strong argument that all 3 of their selections made after our picks (Barzal, Konecny, Beauvillier) are better than DeBrusk. Winnipeg and Ottawa also had 2 1sts and they hit on more players than we did, despite all of their selections coming after ours.
We're going on our 4th straight year of an incomplete 2nd line, and the consensus 2 BPA (Barzal and Connor) fell into our lap and would've solved that issue, and Sweeney and the staff failed. Given some of our key players aging and experiencing injuries, I expect us to be in a similar position over the next few years that Detroit was in over the last few years of Zetterberg and Datsyuk, where we get worse every year and either sneak into the playoffs or miss the playoffs entirely. When that happens, Sweeney will likely get canned, and that blown 2015 1st round will be a big reason why.
Jean_Jacket41
Neely = HOF
Keep whining about what if.
What is:
-one top-6 20-30 goal scoring winger who had big goals in playoffs
-50% of the top-6 on D and still improving
Could it have been better? Always. Just like other teams that wish to go back in time to take Pasta in 2014 or McAvoy in 2016.
But 2015 finally ain’t that bad for the worst draft in humanity.
What is:
-one top-6 20-30 goal scoring winger who had big goals in playoffs
-50% of the top-6 on D and still improving
Could it have been better? Always. Just like other teams that wish to go back in time to take Pasta in 2014 or McAvoy in 2016.
But 2015 finally ain’t that bad for the worst draft in humanity.
The don godfather
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I believe jakub will become a top pairing dman . I know only one game but there is lots to be excited about this kid . Carlo lauzon and zboril in one draft playing for years is ridiculous. Donny did it.
Olden McGroin
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That would be the Oilers 1990 draft class, 12 players taken, Zero (thats none) NHL games played.
MattFromFranklin
Fire Sweeney and Neely
Felger has said that the 2015 1st round will be the albatross across the necks of Sweeney and Neely for the rest of their careers, or at least until they win a Cup, and that doesn't look like that will happen anytime soon. It will also be a big reason why Sweeney gets canned (and deservedly so, and hopefully Neely as well) within the next few years. Barzal and Connor, two slam-dunk players at the time who have panned out as expected into top-end forwards, fell into their laps and instead they wound up with a guy who was put on waivers (Senyshyn) and a very inconsistent/frustrating winger who brings nothing to the table when he isn't scoring and isn't even a fit in the top 6 (DeBrusk). It's not the fault of DeBrusk and Senyshyn. They were big reaches and both of them never should've been with this organization. It's the fault of Sweeney, Neely, and the scouts.
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This argument has been beaten to death. Felger has nothing else. No ****
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Dennis Bonvie
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Still can't believe the went up to the podium and made 3 picks. After the first two picks the phones would have been ringing off the hook. Were they just too lazy to walk up and back a couple of times?
Don Cherry
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Why not give a little pause and at least let people think that they had a small clue? There's a good chance that another GM would have made an offer of some sort and saved them from themselves. Every other GM has to be laughing at those clowns to this day.
Good point, Mr Bonvie.
I’m 98% positive that I recall Sweeney saying (around draft time) we are good at center and he mentioned the 3 guys. He went on to say we need wingers.
Well we can say that about almost any draft. I hated 07 because the first 6 guys all went. I was praying we trade the pick.
I hope so they had the most picks in the first 2 rounds by a long shot. Wanna trade all our picks for Thomas and Barzal. I would.
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