Rumor: Pagnotta: Montreal and Toronto had an agreed trade at trade deadline: Knies for Zharovksy, prospect + 2x 1st round pick

[Puckstuff]

Thank God Treliving is gone. What an absolute incompetent moron.

 

[Kegs]

The Leafs front office was even more of a clown show than we realized.

I don’t know why you would kick off a rebuild by trading your 23 year old power forward for futures. Completely ridiculous stuff.

I’m not sure how I would have felt as a Habs fan. It’s a lot to pay. Zharovsky has an immense ceiling and it sounds like he will be over when his KHL contract is up. But 6’3 / 230 players who can skate as good as Knies don’t grow on trees either.

Knies is 6’3? I didn’t know that.

 

[Ezpz]

Thank God Treliving is gone. What an absolute incompetent moron.

It'll be funny if zharovsky pans out and leafs fans are angry for a different reason.

 

[Wats]

It'll be funny if zharovsky pans out and leafs fans are angry for a different reason.

Maybe even the same people LOL

 

[Rob Brown]

It'll be funny if zharovsky pans out and leafs fans are angry for a different reason.

Sure, the point is that Knies has already panned out and is young and cost controlled and wants to be in Toronto, so there is no point trying to move him.

 

[glenbuis2]

Sure, the point is that Knies has already panned out and is young and cost controlled and wants to be in Toronto, so there is no point trying to move him.

just out of curiosity what was/is his knee issue ?

 

[Flip The Bird]

Pelley was in those meetings too. You would think that the keys were taken away from treliving at that time if he was about to be fired...... bit if he still had the authority at the time to pull off a major trade, thats another sign of dysfunction.

Toronto media speculation is Treliving bumbling of trade was final straw for him in Toronto.

Usually new GM has his own reins.

 

[McJedi]

Could see it being a draft day trade

28th overll- 2026 draft
1st round pick protected- 2027 draft
Zharovsky
Beck

for

Knies

I'd love the trade so much for the Habs. Hate it for Toronto. Two late 1st round picks and a good, not great prospect for a legit 23 year old power forward on a sweetheart contract.

He'd be a great fit in the Habs top six. Would lock the Habs into the top spot in their division for a while.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

reminder Pagnotta has zero credibility

I wouldn't say 0 he has gotten some stuff over the years, his big one was being the first one to report that Tavares had signed in Toronto in 2018,

That said he is hit and miss for sure he's not the most credible.

but Kent Hughes did say there was a big trade that nearly happened so maybe there is something to this.

But even if there is something to this that was under the previous GM

 

[ashs]

Knies combination of hits and pts is rare. Keep him tml

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

BobClarkesfrontteeth said:
May want to pump the brakes on the Marner hapiness.Your a Montreal fan you should know. He racked up points against the pillow fight Pacific in the first two rounds and Colorado simply fell apart from the beating they from Dallas and Minny. Yet Marner is a clearing over the glass away from crumbling give it time as Vegas is playing a healthy team now.

Told you guys to to wait for it. There is no taking the losing out of that Toronto core 4.

He’s winning even if they lose at this point

Did he win? I didn't see him in the winning team's cup photo.

This aged poorly.

Aged like a fine New Jersey whine.

 

[Atomos2]

It'll be funny if zharovsky pans out and leafs fans are angry for a different reason.

Key is Zharovsky has to pan out and love the city he’s playing in enough to ask for a similarly valued contract as well. All things considered. Maybe in Treliving’s magical mind that all works out perfectly. Reality? f*** no

 

[MVP Zacha]

Told you guys to to wait for it. There is no taking the losing out of that Toronto core 4.

Did he win? I didn't see him in the winning team's cup photo.


Aged like a fine New Jersey whine.

When is the last time the Leafs made it as far as Marner in the playoffs, 1967?

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

When is the last time the Leafs made it as far as Marner in the playoffs, 1967?

Well Marner had a lot to do with that didn't he? He will make sure Vegas never wins one on his watch now.

 

[glenbuis2]

not sure what happened to the other thread but the leafs now want a top pairing d , a 1st round pick and a prospect ?

 

[glenbuis2]

the top pairing plus other stuff seems like a reach . are we to assume that knies is on the trade block ?

 

[OVO16]

not sure what happened to the other thread but the leafs now want a top pairing d , a 1st round pick and a prospect ?

Yes because trading Knies for anything other than an overpayment would be stupid. But if teams are truly offering up packages liek that, you'd be stupid not to listen as a GM

 

[glenbuis2]

Yes because trading Knies for anything other than an overpayment would be stupid. But if teams are truly offering up packages liek that, you'd be stupid not to listen as a GM

yeah this is a really good and fair point . i’m hoping there’s a chance torontos new management will screw things up here for montreals benefit . knies would be awesome with suzuki and caufield leaving slaf to join demidov .

 

[Habs Halifax]

Key is Zharovsky has to pan out and love the city he’s playing in enough to ask for a similarly valued contract as well. All things considered. Maybe in Treliving’s magical mind that all works out perfectly. Reality? f*** no

I think it was deeper than just Zharovsky. Pickford and two 1sts were in that deal. That's a very good 4 piece return that injects pieces in the Leafs pool.

Zharovsky has good top 6 potential. Are we premature? Not sure. His 1st season in the KHL was a darn good one and on par with Michkov and Demidov.

Pickford is the one that many are overlooking. He's one of those offensive shooting RD's with great leadership. Skating needs to be worked on but that's something a development team can improve on. This is a piece that is redundant on the Habs with Hutson and Dobson in the mold. Other savvy GM's probably see this as well.

Zharovsky to me is a legit grade A. Pickford is a A- or B+ but there is very good potential from this kid. Broke goal scoring records as a RD and was CHL defenseman of the year. Certainly an offensive D man type who has good leadership (it appears)

That package was no joke.

 

[superstars]

Zharovsky and two 1sts seems like a lot ngl

 

[ChurchOfKnies]

The way Knies played near the end of the season makes me feel like he was fully aware about the trade. He just looked disinterested which is not like him at all.

 

[ChurchOfKnies]

When is the last time the Leafs made it as far as Marner in the playoffs, 1967?

Now Vegas can carry the curse of that little goblin.

 

[ToDavid]

The way Knies played near the end of the season makes me feel like he was fully aware about the trade. He just looked disinterested which is not like him at all.

The whole team was pretty disinterested by the end of the season.

He's looked like a pretty happy Maple Leaf in the offseason so far. Staying in Toronto, repping the Marlies, hanging out with Willy.

 

[ChurchOfKnies]

The whole team was pretty disinterested by the end of the season.

He's looked like a pretty happy Maple Leaf in the offseason so far. Staying in Toronto, repping the Marlies, hanging out with Willy.

Hoping he's real happy here. Love the player and not sure I can change my username again lol.

 

[JadedRandom]

I'd love the trade so much for the Habs. Hate it for Toronto. Two late 1st round picks and a good, not great prospect for a legit 23 year old power forward on a sweetheart contract.

He'd be a great fit in the Habs top six. Would lock the Habs into the top spot in their division for a while.

Zharovsky is 6'2, skilled as hell, smart as hell with the puck on his stick, has very good puck-protection technique, shoots well, is an above-average skater, and has tons more room to grow physically, and you think he's only a "good" prospect?

If true, there are decidedly very little teams that have "great" prospects in your opinion.

I think the trade of Knies for Zharovsky and two first-round picks hurts as a Canadiens fan, but is more or less fair as of this season.

But if Zharovsky continues showing crazy progression, as he did from his draft year to his D+1, it very well could be that in a year or two Zharovsky would hold similar or even higher value on his own than Knies, without even mentioning the two first-round picks.

The one reason why the Canadiens would do that trade is that they need top-6 help right now, not in 2 years, and also to ice more space-generating physical players, like Knies, to compliment the skill guys they already have.

All of it is a moot point now though, given that the Leafs will likely not trade Knies to the Canadiens unless they get immediate quality help back, which would mean that Zharovsky would not be part of the package.