Proposal: Pacioretty's value from other teams point of view

[Bruce Granville]

Guess you haven't been following hockey much especially around trade deadline.

You didn't get it.
He will easily fetch a couple of 1sts and a prospect, if he scores 40 goals.
But if he stays a 17 goal scorer with health issues, there still might be a contender who is willing to risk their 1st.
But atm he most likely will not fetch anything worth trading him.
Rather keep him, hope for a bounce back and cash in or hope for a 1st no matter how bad he is.
It will be more than now.

 

[smirob]

The term aging is used far too much on this board. The only ageless player to ever play was Jagr, all others are aging......

 

[voxel]

You didn't get it.
He will easily fetch a couple of 1sts and a prospect, if he scores 40 goals.
But if he stays a 17 goal scorer with health issues, there still might be a contender who is willing to risk their 1st.
But atm he most likely will not fetch anything worth trading him.
Rather keep him, hope for a bounce back and cash in or hope for a 1st no matter how bad he is.
It will be more than now.

+1

MaxPac will fetch more at the trade deadline when he is healthy and his cap is minuscule. Probably will get a 1st and prospect if he is on pace for ~35 goals.

If he's injured... nothing.

 

[CREW99AW]

You didn't get it.
He will easily fetch a couple of 1sts and a prospect, if he scores 40 goals.
But if he stays a 17 goal scorer with health issues, there still might be a contender who is willing to risk their 1st.
But atm he most likely will not fetch anything worth trading him.
Rather keep him, hope for a bounce back and cash in or hope for a 1st no matter how bad he is.
It will be more than now.

Teams are most likely to overpay at the TDL. A team acquiring MaxPac at the last TDL , could have had him for 2 playoff runs.
Now that teams are in the offseason, with more and cheaper options, it is very unlikely some team meets Montreal's asking price. If they wouldn't at the TDL , why would they now?
And your suggestion that he could return a couple of 1sts+ a prospect is imo fantasy.

 

[David25]

Habs want Coyle or Nino?

Coyle +

 

[CREW99AW]

+1

MaxPac will fetch more at the trade deadline when he is healthy and his cap is minuscule. Probably will get a 1st and prospect if he is on pace for ~35 goals.

If he's injured... nothing.

Makes sense.
Hold onto him,hoping he bounces back next season.

 

[Bruce Granville]

Teams are most likely to overpay at the TDL.
...
And your suggestion that he could return a couple of 1sts+ a prospect is imo fantasy.

Huh?
Overpayment is fantasy?

 

[CREW99AW]

Huh?
Overpayment is fantasy?

Two 1sts+ a prospect for 1 yr of MaxPac is fantasy.
Especially if he continues to play like crap

 

[tictactoe]

Give you Rubtsov.

 

[Bruce Granville]

Two 1sts+ a prospect for 1 yr of MaxPac is fantasy.
Especially if he continues to play like crap

I had a different premise. Read again.

 

[CREW99AW]

I had a different premise. Read again.

I read it again and still disagree that MaxPac ,months from being a ufa and on pace for 40 goals, would return two 1sts + a prospect

 

[elitepete]

His value is a 1st+ decent but not amazing prospect

 

[Mandala]

Makes sense.
Hold onto him,hoping he bounces back next season.

His value is a 1st+ decent but not amazing prospect

Offer from which team?

 

[elitepete]

Offer from which team?

I’m just saying in general that is what his value is imo.

My team would not be able to make an even remotely competitive offer.

 

[SML2]

Picture if you will, an estate sale. At this sale you see items. The people selling the items think they have immense value. There's feelings and sentimentality attached. Each thing has more value to the seller than the buyer. The seller looks at this hammer for sale, and he sees that that was his grandfather's hammer. His grandfather the carpenter. Who went to work with that hammer every day to build a life for his family. So when the person selling the hammer prices it, they expect compensation for all of that. The person buying it just sees an old hammer and says "I'll give you five bucks" The point of all this: if you think it's worth all that much, keep your damn hammer. Nobody's giving up multiple first rounders him. There's a lot of cheaper hammers out there.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Two 1sts+ a prospect for 1 yr of MaxPac is fantasy.
Especially if he continues to play like crap

You clearly haven't seen him play.

 

[Scintillating10]

1. Ladd has a NMC.
2. Isles are not putting together a huge offer of top, cost controlled talent to wiggle out of the remaining 5 yrs/ $23m owed Ladd.
3. Other franchises have had to suck it up and go thru serious rebuilds. Now it is Montreal's turn. Deal with it.

Deal was more for Islanders than us. I imagine they are all in to keep Tavares. Myself, I would rather keep Pacioreetty until the trade deadline. Given what a washed up Nash returned. Plus, odds are strong Paciorety will bounce back. He plays best with a Radulov or Cole type on RW. Centers don't seem to matter much to him as he has scored 35+ goals twice with some pretty bad centers, DD, etc.... Habs will draft a Svechnikov or Zadina in June. Either be a great fit to play with Pacioretty.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Picture if you will, an estate sale. At this sale you see items. The people selling the items think they have immense value. There's feelings and sentimentality attached. Each thing has more value to the seller than the buyer. The seller looks at this hammer for sale, and he sees that that was his grandfather's hammer. His grandfather the carpenter. Who went to work with that hammer every day to build a life for his family. So when the person selling the hammer prices it, they expect compensation for all of that. The person buying it just sees an old hammer and says "I'll give you five bucks" The point of all this: if you think it's worth all that much, keep your damn hammer. Nobody's giving up multiple first rounders him. There's a lot of cheaper hammers out there.

You get what you pay for, our GM loves dumpster diving and we know where that gets us but good luck with your cheap hammers

 

[CREW99AW]

Deal was more for Islanders than us. I imagine they are all in to keep Tavares. Myself, I would rather keep Pacioreetty until the trade deadline. Given what a washed up Nash returned. Plus, odds are strong Paciorety will bounce back. He plays best with a Radulov or Cole type on RW. Centers don't seem to matter much to him as he has scored 35+ goals twice with some pretty bad centers, DD, etc.... Habs will draft a Svechnikov or Zadina in June. Either be a great fit to play with Pacioretty.

Tavares lw Lee scored 34 goals last season and 40 goals this season.
Tavares rw Bailey, has had back to back career highs the last 2 seasons, including 71 pts this season.
Eberle is coming off a 59 pt season on the 2nd line and 20 yr old Beau , scored more goals then MaxPac this season.
Let's end the nonsense that the isles need to find a winger for Tavares. That load of bull is what other fanbases push to explain trades that make no sense for the nyi.

 

[CREW99AW]

Offer from which team?

A team fighting for a 2018-2019 playoff spot and needing more scoring.
Not saying there won't be other scorers available on the market or that teams will meet Montreal's price, but MaxPac needs a bounce back season if Montreal is getting a quality return.

 

[Scintillating10]

Tavares rw Lee scored 34 goals last season and 40 goals this season.
Tavares lw Bailey, has had back to back career highs the last 2 seasons, including 71 pts this season.
Eberle is coming off a 59 pt season on the 2nd line and 20 yr old Beau , scored more goals then MaxPac this season.
Let's end the nonsense that the isles need to find a winger for Tavares. That load of bull is what other fanbases push to explain trades that make no sense for the nyi.

Why are so many Islanders fans making offers for Pacioretty then?

 

[SML2]

You get what you pay for, our GM loves dumpster diving and we know where that gets us but good luck with your cheap hammers

First things first. I strongly approve of your user name.
Secondly, disagree if you like. I don't even need a hammer. But I'm sure as he'll not going to over pay you for yours, especially since it's never even built anything.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

First things first. I strongly approve of your user name.
Secondly, disagree if you like. I don't even need a hammer. But I'm sure as he'll not going to over pay you for yours, especially since it's never even built anything.

Thanks
No argument on not having built anything but our construction manager hasn't figure out yet that you need wood and nails to go with the hammer - sort of like the Kessel Brand hammer that did more than fine later
There's a difference between cheap and overpay, there's market comparisons for those that need the hammer, it's somewhere between priceless and $5

 

[SML2]

Thanks
No argument on not having built anything but our construction manager hasn't figure out yet that you need wood and nails to go with the hammer - sort of like the Kessel Brand hammer that did more than fine later
There's a difference between cheap and overpay, there's market comparisons for those that need the hammer, it's somewhere between priceless and $5

Fair enough. You do need a good construction manager. Well played. Get these men some wood and nails to go with their hammer!

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Jesus Christ, this board is thirsty to bring down Montreal no matter what... please try to be objective.

He had 1 bad season this year and it's like he lost all his value...

"he's so aging" 29 years old scorer who produced 30+ goals for 5 seasons, try to find an other player like him in the league, ya there is almost none under 29 years old. he was almost at 0.5 goals per night this season ( even with his terrible season 0.5G per night is worth a lot)

every damn players have a bad year, it happens, stop judging Montreal because you hate the city ( for no good reason) and try to be objective with the players and not the city or the fans....

HE should bring a high first round pick ( 14 and less) + A prospect center/LD or a ready center body ( like O'really)

P.S ( he is at 10 goals on 38 games in his Playoff career, it's not that terrible. and people be like " he's the worst playoff player I have seen" calm the f*** down, jesus..