Proposal: Pacioretty's value from other teams point of view

[Mandala]

Hi,

this thread is to about Pacioretty's value from other teams point of view (so please no Habs fans proposals):

1) Name your team

2) Value of Pacioretty for your team:

A) none: no need for this player
B) some value: could trade for this player but unlikely to agree on Habs prize
C) real value: would trade for this player(s) and/or pick(s) and/or prospect(s)

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Update: Propositions by fans:

ATLANTIC

Toronto:
a) Jake Gardiner
b) No value. No need for this player
c) 1rst round pick + B prospect + bottom 6 winger (pro: one year fits with upcoming cap issues)
d) 1rst round pick + 3rd liner
e) 1rst round pick + moderate prospect

Detroit:
a) some value, no specifics
b) no need for that player re: rebuild
Tampa Bay: no need for that player
Buffalo: some value, no specifics
Ottawa: ???
Boston: ???
Florida:
a) some value, no specifics. 1rst round pick at 15th overall not an option.
b) Nick Bjugstad

METROPOLITAN

New York Islanders: no need for that player
Philadelphia:
a) 1rst round pick, 19th 2018
b) 1rst round pick, 19th 2018 + Wayne Simmonds for Pacioretty + 2nd round pick
c) 1rst round pick, 19th 2018 if resigned 3+ years
d) some value, no specifics
e) 1rst round pick, 19th 2018 + German Rubtsov/Mikhail Vorobyov
New York Rangers: some value, no specifics
New Jersey: ???
Washington: ???
Pittsburgh: ???
Columbus: ???
Carolina:
a) Jeff Skinner or Victor Rask + Julien Gauthier. Offer for resigned Pacioretty.
b) Nicolas Roy + 2nd round pick 2018. Offer for resigned Pacioretty.

CENTRAL

Minnesota:
a) Charlie Coyle or Nino Niederreiter
b) Some value, no specifics (No Coyle or Niederreiter (age, decline))
St-Louis:
a) 1rst round pick + B prospect
b) 1rst round pick + Samuel Blais/Ivan Barbashev
c) 1rst round pick + Vladimir Sobotka + Samuel Blais -> Pacioretty + 2nd round pick (Toronto)
d) 1rst round pick + Samuel Blais/Zach Sanford + conditional pick if reach Western Conference Final
Dallas:
a) Esa Lindell
b) none: no need for this player (at least not Esa Lindell re: age, contract)
Chicago: 1rst round pick (Nashville) + Artem Anisimov
Colorado: 1rst round pick + B prospect
Winnipeg: no value: no need for this player
Nashville: ???

PACIFIC

Anaheim:
a) 1rst round + Jakob Silfverberg + Antoine Morand for resigned Pacioretty + Byron
b) 2nd round pick + good prospects
Los Angeles:
a) Michael Amadio + 2nd round pick + Oscar Fattenberg/Kevin Gravel/Kurtis MacDermid
b) Tanner Pearson + 2019 2nd and 3rd round picks and maybe Christian Folin
Edmonton:
a) 2018 2nd round + 2019 2nd round, vs 2019 1rst round lottery protected
b) no value: no need for this player
c) some value, no specifics
d) 1rst pick 10th + Ryan Nugent-Hopkins for Pacioretty + 1rst round 3rd
Vancouver: some value, no specifics
Las Vegas: ???
San Jose: ???
Calgary: no value, no need for this player
Phoenix: ???

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[Mandala]

Lol no reply... at least Bergevin will know now and just resign him ... ; )

 

[MMC]

1st + Morand + Silfverberg + 3rd if he re-signings for Patches + Byron

 

[Dbrownss]

1st+B prospect

 

[Jay haller]

Mid 1st (10-20) straight up probably.

What Chicago would give up?

NSH 1st and Anisimov

 

[rent free]

Toronto

Jake gardener

 

[CREW99AW]

Hi,

this thread is to about Pacioretty's value from other teams point of view (so please no Habs fans proposals):

1) Name your team

2) Value of Pacioretty for your team:

A) none: no need for this player
B) some value: could trade for this player but unlikely to agree on Habs prize
C) real value: would trade for this player(s) and/or pick(s) and/or prospect(s)

Isles

A)None. No need for this player.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

I don't think Tampa would expend assets Montreal would realistically want for him.

 

[elitepete]

Canucks: I wouldn’t say no value, but I wouldn’t give up much at all.

 

[boredmale]

Islanders

We already have enough Left Wingers, that being said a Ladd+++ for Pacioretty gets me listening

 

[Starat327]

Philly: option B. We aren't paying the price being asked on these forums.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

I wouldn't say Detroit has no need for him, just that the need isn't great enough to pay the price.

 

[razor ray]

Will be 30, had a down year, and only has one year left on his deal. Might as well save him until the trade deadline he probably will have more value then....see Tatar.

 

[keppel146]

Habs want Coyle or Nino?

 

[Chainshot]

Sabres - none. Not that he isn't a fine player, but his single year term and the likely cost in assets to acquire, combined with his age make him a terrible fit.

 

[sansabri]

Looking at how little other fanbases value our 3rd OV, this is sure to go over real well.

 

[MasterMatt25]

Islanders

We already have enough Left Wingers, that being said a Ladd+++ for Pacioretty gets me listening

What's the +++?

 

[bauer]

Philly: option B. We aren't paying the price being asked on these forums.

Yeah I can see Hextall maybe having some interest there. Pacioretty does fill a need for Philly.

That said, he’ll be turning 30 this year and he’s coming off a bad year. He also only has 1 year until UFA. His value is pretty low right now I’d imagine.

I might bite at the 19th for him, but I wouldn’t do much more than that.

 

[Starat327]

Yeah I can see Hextall maybe having some interest there. Pacioretty does fill a need for Philly.

That said, he’ll be turning 30 this year and he’s coming off a bad year. He also only has 1 year until UFA. His value is pretty low right now I’d imagine.

I might bite at the 19th for him, but I wouldn’t do much more than that.

Right. I'd love to push Lindblom down to 3LW, but paying a first for a rental when our most dire need - a goalie - isnt going to be fulfilled, and will ultimately hold us back until Hart is ready, just makes little sense.

That said, I value Max highly. But it's just not a great fit for us right now.

 

[Runner77]

Hi,

this thread is to about Pacioretty's value from other teams point of view (so please no Habs fans proposals):
...

This is exactly my suggestion from a post I had yesterday.

Let opposing team fans out-deal each other with the lowest offers.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Kings a need yes but only at a cheap price, Amadio 2nd and choice of gravel macdermid or fattenberg and i fully expect a no from montreal fans

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Will be 30, had a down year, and only has one year left on his deal. Might as well save him until the trade deadline he probably will have more value then....see Tatar.

MaxPac certainly has a better track record than Tatar, but Tatar's value came in the term left on his deal and his age. He wouldn't have fetched nearly that as a 30 year old rental.

 

[boredmale]

What's the +++?

1st + 2nd + any defenseman we drafted since 2014

 

[bauer]

Right. I'd love to push Lindblom down to 3LW, but paying a first for a rental when our most dire need - a goalie - isnt going to be fulfilled, and will ultimately hold us back until Hart is ready, just makes little sense.

That said, I value Max highly. But it's just not a great fit for us right now.

Not a bad fit, but I agree there are better options out there if we’re looking to move a pick. If Hextall is looking for a scoring winger (which he says he is) I’d much rather he go after Hoffman, Stone or Skinner.

 

[c_robio]

Judging by this thread, Habs should start working on an extension July 1st.

He seems to want to stay so not sure why he's being pushed out anyway. Just trade a different winger