A lot of you guys are undervaluing the player. We got an elite player.
Confirmed with Link: P.K.Subban traded to NJ for Santini, Davies, two 2nds
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"I feel quite silly that I didn't catch this myself, but that's an excellent point so here are the numbers.
Pre-injury: 54.4% xG (1st on NSH D), +3, 55-point pace
Post-Injury: 49.8% xG (last on NSH D), -2, 35-point pace
Lends even more credence to a bounce-back."
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Pre-injury: 54.4% xG (1st on NSH D), +3, 55-point pace
Post-Injury: 49.8% xG (last on NSH D), -2, 35-point pace
Lends even more credence to a bounce-back."
From the comments in this article: Are the additions of Jack Hughes and P.K. Subban enough to...
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I'm not 100% on board with moving Zacha to wing nor am I in love with McLeod but I don't mind this lineup. Two scoring lines, the best third line in the league (probably) and a fast disruptive 4th line.
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I'm not 100% on board with moving Zacha to wing nor am I in love with McLeod but I don't mind this lineup. Two scoring lines, the best third line in the league (probably) and a fast disruptive 4th line.
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Zacha shouldn’t be in the top 6 and McLeod should be in Bing
Would like to still fill that 2nd line lw role and move Zacha to the McLeod spot (and McLeod to Binghamton).
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Im still waiting for Mcleod to actually do something to be called an NHLer.
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Friedman mentioned today that Shero might be looking at him; Shero kicked the tires on Frolik when he was a free agent in 2015. Calgary currently has ~13 million to re-sign Tkachuk/Bennett/Rittich plus another goalie (sounds like Talbot).
Frolik at 4.3 million cap hit (3 mil actual salary) could get moved just to open up some breathing room. Seems like Frolik got lost a little in the shuffle with a new coach plus them bringing in Lindholm/Neal at RW. Frolik still put up respectable numbers (34 points in 65 games with no PP time) and Calgary fans seem to say that Frolik still gives an honest effort.
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I wanted Frolik in 2015 and he’d be a nice 3rd line addition, but I’m not sure he moves the needle enough for me to want to buy him.
It wouldn't be very expensive and there's not a lot on the UFA market that's comparable. Like with Subban, the Devils would be paying so as to mitigate the future risk, and they have players who might be a year away from taking that kind of role.
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Yes, but if we look at our current forwards, we have a few new players who may well be NHL capable now. Boqvist and Maltsev both come to mind.
Maltsev couldn't make the KHL full-time last season. Boqvist has promise but isn't similar to Frolik at all - Frolik would play with Zajac and Coleman. I don't think they'd put Boqvist there.
Ya, I don't know about Maltsev, but Boqvist and Anderson for sure. Maybe throw Bastian in there too.
Would the added depth of adding a guy like Frolik be a good thing? It wouldn't be a bad thing, but we certainly aren't hurting for a player of his ilk.
I mean, if it was Q for Frolik, that would have been fine by me.
I'd be for getting Frolik, however I do think Boqvist will earn a spot. If he does I'd rather see him get a spot on the second line, with Zacha being in Macleod's spot. McLeod definitely needs another season at least in the minors. At this point we need to be patient with him and hope he can develop into a bottom six player that can provide value relative to his AAV in a few years when we are contending.
Injuries happen over a season - that's when, ideally, a team should bring up young players with promise. The worst case is that the Devils left some decent players in the minors for a year - I find it unlikely that anyone they have in the organization (who isn't Hughes, obv) would be better than Frolik.
And then Frolik is UFA after next season so Anderson or Bastian (or some UFA) takes his place.
And then Frolik is UFA after next season so Anderson or Bastian (or some UFA) takes his place.
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Frolik is more than fine if we don't have to give up anything of value.
He produced at a good clip last year (over half a point per game) and he only averaged 13:22 of ice time.
His production in 17-18 wasn't good, but he seemed to bounce back last year and with much less ice time.
You can probably get 37-44 points out of Frolik if he plays the whole season and receives adequate ice time. He's only 31 and he's probably gonna be a HUGE upgrade over Drew Stafford. Especially the one we've had since November of 2017.
Frolik averaged 66 seconds more of ice time per game last year than Stafford and scored 34 points in 65 games, to Stafford's 13 points in 57 games.
He produced at a good clip last year (over half a point per game) and he only averaged 13:22 of ice time.
His production in 17-18 wasn't good, but he seemed to bounce back last year and with much less ice time.
You can probably get 37-44 points out of Frolik if he plays the whole season and receives adequate ice time. He's only 31 and he's probably gonna be a HUGE upgrade over Drew Stafford. Especially the one we've had since November of 2017.
Frolik averaged 66 seconds more of ice time per game last year than Stafford and scored 34 points in 65 games, to Stafford's 13 points in 57 games.
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