Because he's a rookie GM and PK is a RFA. You realize that PK being a RFA is Bergevin's sole leverage? Otherwise PK would have been signed a long time ago to maybe even more cash than he's asking.
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Because he's a rookie GM and PK is a RFA. You realize that PK being a RFA is Bergevin's sole leverage? Otherwise PK would have been signed a long time ago to maybe even more cash than he's asking.
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If he wasn't an RFA he'd have a Doughty type deal. He might wind up with one anyway...
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Well we weren't privy to MB's interview when he was hired as a GM so until a few years go by I'm not willing to pass judgment. PK is an RFA and he is being treated the same way everybody else has been treated in Montreal.
Which is stupid because not everybody has the same skills, roles or development.
You need to be flexible as a GM in terms of how to deal away contracts. Giving away 4y to Prust but telling PK he's not worth more than 2years, isn't the right way to go about it.
It's the other way around. You take better care of your stars as they're way more valuable and harder to replace. Guys like Prust are a dime a dozen.
Not convinced about it. I don't think they are pushing for a 50M dollar deal. I see them asking more towards a 25-35M deal.
what the hell is bergevin waiting for?jesus.are we ever gonna see management that knows what they re doing ever again in montreal?this constant parade of clowns the habs call managers is getting really annoying.tried to stay positive over the years but this is plain dumb.give pk his big contract and if it dont work deal him to one of many teams around the league who would kill to have a d man of this calibre.it just doesnt make sense.
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I think they signed Prust to be a role player and foster a different culture in the room - which is one of the reasons they let Gomez go imo. Do you think they hired Therrien to coach us to the cup?
Your argument would hold if we lose PK, but we are in full control of the situation with PK. Sign him short term, then lock him up if he continues to put up the points - it might cost us 'more' but at that point in time MB will have more faith when he signs him. Like I said before, if that time comes and PK isn't signed THEN I will criticize MB.
Wow starting the year off at home vs T.O without PK...... Could we see the earliest riot in sports history?
You guys do realize that the Habs can't just give Subban a $6M contract, right? As in, they don't have the cap space to do so. So either Bergevin gets Subban signed to a Del Zotto style bridge contract (which Subban isn't accepting) or he needs to dump salary - which short of trading a valuable piece, means finding a taker for Bourque or Kaberle. Any takers? Didn't think so...
Seeing as the loophole of burying $ in the minors no longer applies, how exactly do people suggest Bergevin sign Subban to a giant contract?
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We have the room if you use the bonus cushion and send down Gallagher. That scenario puts us 7.4 M under the cap. And Weber is also very expendable once Subban is signed, so there's 850 K that can be freed up.
http://www.capgeek.com/cap-calculator/roster/16425
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#1. He's not going to sit out the entire season, when was the last time a player sat out an entire season? Alexei Yashin?...come on, it's a matter of when, not if.
#2. **** what Sportsnet is saying, no one knows for sure what he's asking for and I certainly wouldn't take what they're saying as credible.
you re telling me the habs cant find a way to fit they re best d man into the lineup because of cap constraints?ha ha ha.ok.good thing mb signed prust.
I like Diaz and all, but if Diaz is supposed to be our best defender, Subban will be able to demand Gomez money soon enough.
They have all the cap space they want. It's not about HVAING enough cap space it's about only using what SHOULD be used so you have room to build a strong team. Add other players from outside and keep our own RFA's/UFA's.
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If that is the case then let him sit. That would be a slap in the face to both Pacioretty and Price, who have both proven themselves more than Subban has.
If he demands on being paid that much then lowball him and force him to play for cheap or sit. Once he signs, start shopping him for a big, young center.
Ok, so let's assume they defer the $2.5 million in bonuses and sign Subban to a $6M deal. Then next year is at $8.57 cap space - $2M deferred bonuses - $6M for Subban = $570K cap space, with only 17 players under contract. Even if you buy out Kaberle, you've now got ~$5M to sign 7 players, including Desharnais.
Pushing the bonuses to next year would be a HUGE mistake.
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Pacioretty has one season over 25 points and he's apparently proven yet Subban isn't proven, makes sense.
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