Owen Sound Attack 2023-24 Season Thread (Part One)

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Stellar29

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Problem is all the best HC's are working. Hard to find someone other than maybe somebody retired?
Wouldn't be surprised if there were some more intriguing names out there with interest in the position other than the current list of re-treads. This is supposed to be a good team taking a run at a championship which is different from taking over a team in the middle of a reset or rebuild and starting from scratch. There's a lot of nice pieces on the roster and opportunity to get your name out there if you have pro aspirations.

Thinking the Assistant Coachs resume more than qualifies him to be the new HC
I think so too but doesn't hurt to go through the process to see what's out there. Wouldn't at all be shocked if there was a surprise or two who applied for the HC position that would have to be looked at. Different scenario from when most coaching positions come available so you never know who might be interested.
 

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Ted Dent is available.

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So too , is Mike Babcock and Kevin Constantine

Wouldn't be surprised if there were some more intriguing names out there with interest in the position other than the current list of re-treads. This is supposed to be a good team taking a run at a championship which is different from taking over a team in the middle of a reset or rebuild and starting from scratch. There's a lot of nice pieces on the roster and opportunity to get your name out there if you have pro aspirations.


I think so too but doesn't hurt to go through the process to see what's out there. Wouldn't at all be shocked if there was a surprise or two who applied for the HC position that would have to be looked at. Different scenario from when most coaching positions come available so you never know who might be interested.
I think the head coach has already arrived in Owen Sound .
 
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Thinking the Assistant Coachs resume more than qualifies him to be the new HC
Agree, with the way that the season ended last year, you have to think DeGray brought in Rumble just incase this happened. And from Rumble's side, he probably accepted knowing this may be a possibility.

Any addition to the staff I would think would be as an assistant.
 
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So too , is Mike Babcock and Kevin Constantine


I think the head coach has already arrived in Owen Sound .
That was my thought as well but it seems from the comments Degray made in the article there will likely be an application and interview process. I'm not 100% sure that's strictly for an Assistant Coach though. Otherwise why not just name Rumble as HC? I think the door was intentionally left open.
 

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Agree, with the way that the season ended last year, you have to think DeGray brought in Rumble just incase this happened. And from Rumble's side, he probably accepted knowing this may be a possibility.

Any addition to the staff I would think would be as an assistant.
I agree that's the likely outcome but they didn't immediately name Rumble as the HC. I think DeGray has left his options open which is smart. Rumble is definitely the obvious guy and unquestionably has the resume. It certainly felt like Rumble was going to be the next man up when he was hired.
 

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I agree that's the likely outcome but they didn't immediately name Rumble as the HC. I think DeGray has left his options open which is smart. Rumble is definitely the obvious guy and unquestionably has the resume. It certainly felt like Rumble was going to be the next man up when he was hired.
I would guess, since this happened rather suddenly, there needs to be a cooling off period before everything is settled.

I'd be shocked if Rumble is not named the permanent head coach in short order . With a new long term deal in hand .
 

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I would guess, since this happened rather suddenly, there needs to be a cooling off period before everything is settled.

I'd be shocked if Rumble is not named the permanent head coach in short order . With a new long term deal in hand .
I'm not so sure it's all that sudden really. It seems like DeGray had been contemplating this move for awhile dating back to the offseason. I think it just seems sudden to us because it's 7 games in and the team's record is 4-2-0-1. I have to imagine there was some sort of talking to last week that triggered Walters running the team the way he did Friday and Saturday. Seems like Walters was treating them like a playoff game either to prolong his stay in Owen Sound or audition for another gig and forced Dale's hand with some form of defiance.

I do wonder how much ownership played into this? I think we all assumed Walters was on the last year of his deal but Greg Cowan's piece said he had this year plus one more which likely explains why he was given another chance this year. Head Coaches typically don't come cheap. If it was only the one year it's hard to imagine why DeGray wouldn't have already made the move based on the disconnect in the GM and HC relationship.

All that said, I think Rumble would be an excellent choice and pretty hard to quibble about with his resume. Hopefully they can dig up another good assistant to add to the bench as it was awfully nice to get someone with experience like Rumble this last hiring cycle, not to say I'm expecting someone with as much experience as Rumble but not someone's first coaching gig at this level either.
 

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What happened to get the coach fired? You guys are 4-2-1 and always beat the Rangers. From an outsiders perspective it looked like everything was great in Owen Sound.
 

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Kitchener fan coming in peace.

What happened to get the coach fired? You guys are 4-2-1 and always beat the Rangers. From an outsiders perspective it looked like everything was great in Owen Sound.
You can read the article below with commentary from the GM to offer some context. This was something that's been coming for some time now.

 
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Rumble is "interim" head coach. Doesn't look like a vote of confidence
That's pretty typical for an in season coaching change. They needed to designate somebody as the shot caller before the next game anyways. Still allows them to move ahead with the interview and hiring process with their options open. Most likely the interim tag is removed when the coaching staff is fleshed out with the third member behind the bench.
 

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How it 'looks' isn't important to anyone outside the organization.
Do you have more inside information you'd like to share ?
Do you disagree? It just doesn't seem like you guys are confident. My opinion, no inside info. Seems to me he is qualified, so why tag him interim?
 

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Do you disagree? It just doesn't seem like you guys are confident. My opinion, no inside info. Seems to me he is qualified, so why tag him interim?
Why not be the interim, what if someone comes to Degray with a better resume? Whats the pressure to make him the head coach.

They did the same thing under Alan Letang when they let Todd Gill go, Letang was named interim and then announced head coach over the summer.

Come to think of it, im pretty sure NHL teams do the same thing?
 

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Why not be the interim, what if someone comes to Degray with a better resume? Whats the pressure to make him the head coach.

They did the same thing under Alan Letang when they let Todd Gill go, Letang was named interim and then announced head coach over the summer.

Come to think of it, im pretty sure NHL teams do the same thing?
That's 100% correct, yes. Pretty normal for in season coaching changes to be of the interim variety. It allows the team the opportunity to do due diligence for exploring what or who is available and suited for what role. I would imagine with this happening so early in the season the interim tag will come off prior to the end of the season.
 

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First game in the Rumble era starting tonight. Assuming Steen is still out, I'm interesting in seeing how the rookies Smith and Ethier handle the speed and heavy forecheck Kitchener plays with. I thought the Attack really struggled in their own end in the last meeting with the pace the Kitchener forwards got in on them. I'm expecting George gets the net as he seems to have Kitchener's number early in his young career. Can the forwards get going and start scoring at a rate more in line with their career norms on a consistent basis? This weekend's 3 in 3 offer a good opportunity to jump start the offense.

One thing I'll be paying attention to is the team PIMS. Owen Sound is the least penalized team in the league and has zero majors so far. They have some players who don't shy away from the physical side of the game so I wonder how long that lasts for?

Overall, fresh start for everybody. Hopefully they start off on a positive note. It will be fun to watch how they evolve their game under a new leader behind the bench.
 
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