DangleBojangle
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Ovechkin top 10 player of all time?
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Welcome to the forum.
Also, the answer is yes.
Also, the answer is yes.
Nemesis Prime
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he already is. If he beats Gretzky's record, there won't be the "Big 4" anymore, there will be "Big 5"
In case you haven't noticed, he's already there.
Sombastate
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I kind have always included Hasek as the "Big Five," but i know that isn't a universal thing.
If OV tops Wayne, then yes, there would be an official big five, i think
OV will never top Crosby even if he beats Gretzky's record.
Hockeyholic
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Um...he is already top ten.
In no particular order:
Gretzky
Mario
Orr
Howe
Crosby
Richard
Harvey
Ovi
Bobby Hull
Hasek
Just on the outside looking in:
Jagr
Yzerman
Sakic
Messier
Brett Hull
In no particular order:
Gretzky
Mario
Orr
Howe
Crosby
Richard
Harvey
Ovi
Bobby Hull
Hasek
Just on the outside looking in:
Jagr
Yzerman
Sakic
Messier
Brett Hull
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Mathematically, it seems possible.
Definitely not.
Greatest goal scorer, yes, but there definitely won't be any consensus on him being #5, nevermind in the same category as the other 4.
Personally, I don't see there being a strong argument for Ovechkin being remotely close to that grouping. We'll have to see what the rest of his career looks like to assess top 10.
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Right now the only guys 100% ahead of him are Gretzky, Orr, Howe and Lemieux. I always put Hasek at 5. But after that there's a group of Bobby Hull, Beliveau, Crosby, Jagr, Bourque and Roy. OV is in that group, where he ranks is individual preference. Richard and Lafleur probably belong in that group too, but I put them at the bottom.
McDavid is already erasing the memory of Crosby. No one can do that to Ovi because there is no one that talented AND consistent.
Big 5, no more big 4 if Ovi breaks record.
ujju2
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If he breaks the all time goals record he'll be at Howe's level if not above. Gretzky/Lemieux/Orr will still be ahead just because of how much they towered over the rest of the league their whole careers but his individual NHL career will be >= any other individual career in NHL history
Turin
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Would be weird for a guy to be a top 5 player ever while only being a top 3 player in his era before he turned 26.
Turin
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I mean, I said that there's no way he would be. You quoted me and said he would be... without providing any compelling reason. I'm left pretty unconvinced.
Jagr at #5 and on the outside looking in? Guy's everywhere!
Turin
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No axe to grind here. Gartner somehow hanging out with Yzerman and Sakic and Crosby nowhere to be found.
Just no, stop trying so hard.
Individual 1
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You must be a Mike Gartner super fan. How can your opinion be taken seriously on this issue when you suggest Gartner is just on the outside of the top 10.
Mike Gartner had one lone season of over 100 points while playing during his prime during the 80s. He was never once top 3 in All Star voting, one season in the top 10 in points where he was 10th, one season where he was top 5 in goals. His 93 playoff points looks ok except for the fact that it game in 122 playoff games.
Nathaniel Skywalker
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lol no. Guy scored 65 points in 78 games as a 26 year old. And has multiple other seasons well below a ppg in his prime.
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Iapyi
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What about people who aren't buttblasted?
Do you agree or disagree with the actual point bearing in mind that the use of the number 12 was just an arbitrary # used to clarify the point.
