Ovechkin Milestone Thread - Countdown to 894 (Continued)

[Devil Dancer]

As for Ovechkin, the goal I remember more than others is the one he scored while falling on his ass. Otherwise, Ovechkin's career looks like a really big flip-book of goals scored from his 'office'.

He didn't even work in that office until Adam Oates put him there half way through his career.

 

[Cappy76]

Just checked the Caps home game tickets for the last 3 games of the season, they all start at $130 already

The last home game is against Columbus which Ovechkin also scored his first 2 career goals. I would allow him to score his record breaking goal against Columbus too

I'm banking on the away game in Columbus while eye balling tickets with my dad. We were both at game 1 where he scored 2 hoping we can witness 895

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

I'm disappointed that the injury likely cost him sole possession of having the most 50 goal season of all time (and possibly winning another Richard). It would have been one of the most legendary late-career seasons of all time.

You and me both….that was a big prize also.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Here are some half-decent goals.

Top-4 are pure filth!

 

[PlushMinus]

Indeed, and if it was the playoffs he probably would've missed high and wide.

So much for your "best effort to remain objective". It only lasted one post

 

[Pengwins]

It would only be fitting for him to break the record on an empty neck goal

 

[BallardEra]

It would only be fitting for him to break the record on an empty neck goal

Against the Pens in the last game of the season.

 

[Calicaps]

Top-4 are pure filth!

It's easy to forget how incredible he was in his prime, just an absolute force of nature.

 

[Fred22406Capsfan]

Odds he signs another contract in the NHL?

Think low to non-existent. Rumored he'd like to finish up back home in the KHL.

 

[Dingo]

It's easy to forget how incredible he was in his prime, just an absolute force of nature.

i remember at the time thinking that the most dynamic, smashing, all around awesome line would be Ovechkin - Forsberg - Lindros. (ya Lindros is a center)

It was a huge thing at the time for me to think that of Ovie because the other two were so jaw-dropping at their best.

Just a mad, rabid Rottweiler of a player. Only ever seen so many TRULY talented big guys play that hard, haphazard even.

 

[carjackmalone]

Imagine if he breaks the record and wins the cup this season

 

[wetcoast]

I know people have said (many times) in here that it would be hilarious if he broke the record with an empty net goal.

But it really wouldn't. Imagine that being the history making, record breaking video clip? Awful.

It really doesn't matter at this point does it?

 

[PlushMinus]

It really doesn't matter at this point does it?

It matters to me - which is why I posted my opinion.

You don't seem to be expressing one? Other than sad resignation that it's inevitable.

 

[wetcoast]

It matters to me - which is why I posted my opinion.

You don't seem to be expressing one? Other than sad resignation that it's inevitable.

I guess it might matter to some people for different reasons but at the end of the day history will show the number of goals and Ovi will be the leader and is unlikely to be caught baring some unforeseen transformation in any future NHL.

In short the historical record will just state the number of goals and his placement.

 

[CapsJunkie]

years later defencemen and goalies still cry themslfves to sleep

 

[ViD]

Imagine if he breaks the record and wins the cup this season

That will solidify him as a top 6 player of all time

Gretzky
Lemieux
Orr
Howe
Crosby
Ovechkin

 

[Khrox]

That will solidify him as a top 6 player of all time

Realistically, he should be a top 6 player all time already.

 

[PlushMinus]

That will solidify him as a top 6 player of all time

Gretzky
Lemieux
Orr
Howe
Crosby
Ovechkin

I don't want to derail this thread, but why doesn't Messier ever appear on these lists? He is right there at the top of those all time lists, and he won a bunch of Cups. Is it because most think he was / is an asshole? lol serious question.

Other notables: Jagr, Francis, Yzerman.

 

[wetcoast]

I don't want to derail this thread,

You're right but here is a quick response.

but why doesn't Messier ever appear on these lists?

Because he isn't even a top 5 center of all time (and that's before McDavid who will surely pass him.

He is right there at the top of those all time lists, and he won a bunch of Cups.

He's usually listed around 20th overall and the "won a bunch of Cups argument is a weak.

Is it because most think he was / is an asshole? lol serious question.

Other notables: Jagr, Francis, Yzerman.

This is a good place to learn and analyze top player lists.

Thread 'Top-100 Hockey Players of All-Time'

Nov 11, 2018

Top-200 Hockey Players of All-Time

The following is the final list of the top hockey players of all-time as determined by 32 voting members of the History of Hockey community.

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Rank	Player	Position	Born	Nation	Birth City
1	Wayne Gretzky	C	1961	Canada	Brantford, Ontario
2	Gordie Howe	RW	1928	Canada	Floral...

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[Dingo]

I don't want to derail this thread, but why doesn't Messier ever appear on these lists? He is right there at the top of those all time lists, and he won a bunch of Cups. Is it because most think he was / is an asshole? lol serious question.

Other notables: Jagr, Francis, Yzerman.

i dont personally think Messier is that close. I have a lot of guys ahead of him, but, i know there are a lot of posters in the HOH forum who think REALLY highly of him, too.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Both goals and assists have the same value: 1 point each.

Well, no, they don't actually have the same value.

I get it - that you are accustomed to assuming they are simply because somebody somewhere in hockey history decided to count them as the same, but that doesn't actually make it true.

There are approximately 1.72 assists per goal, and have been for about 70 years now. The all-time assists record (1963) is more than double the all-time goals record (894).

The opportunity to accumulate assists is vastly different than the opportunity to accumulate goals.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I've seen him play before.

You sure have, as he feasts on your team, and has the most goals on the Jets than any team in the league, not to mention the Jets are in the other conference.

 

[Randyne]

In my humble opinion, he doesn't make his linemates better like Sid the Kid does

That's not true.
Ovechkin is the one who makes his team better, Sid makes his team worse (honestly send him golfing and PIT will take PO spot).
PIT with Sid P% .603
PIT w/o Sid P% .634
WSH with Ovi P% .613
WSH w/o Ovi P% .513
Ovi created top 10 secondary assistant of all time by A2/GP with 500 GP, or top 5 all time with 1000 GP.
Sid created no one.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Also 11th in career assists amongst wingers.

Its important to note how wingers are typically deployed.

Jagr and Kucherov are, unless im forgetting someone, the only two wingers in my viewing lifetime to be able to hang with, or even exceed, the great centers in assists.

Mitch Marner is 10th all time in assists per game played, ahead of both. With his next assist he hits 500 by age 27.

 

[wetcoast]

Mitch Marner is 10th all time in assists per game played, ahead of both. With his next assist he hits 500 by age 27.

Lafleur (who ranks well behind Ovi all time) was a solid 2nd in assists during his 6 year prime as well.