Ovechkin milestone thread - 850 and Beyond!

[Caps8112]

Yes, he couldn't keep up with his earlier production, but he will most likely hit another 50 goal mark and also get 90 points (something he hasn't done since the 2009/10 season). Impressive numbers for a 36-year old in my opinion.

"how bad it potentially will get chasing the record." - Do you think that Ovi would use a rolling chair in his office to collect goals? If he becomes utterly noncompetitive, I am sure that he would not want to be a part of a circus and just retire even if he can't reach Gretzky.

Honestly, I have a feeling that you are trying to devalue the potential goal record by Ovi. You pretend that you are concerned about him (or his team) looking bad late in his career, but, in reality, you just don't want him to break the record. You just won't admit it publicly

this started happening over the last 5-6 years once non ovi fans realized it was becoming more and more likely. Not going to just blame the poster you replied to because ive seen it from many on here. All of a sudden being a goal scorer is selfish. It is not a value to the team and the 15 goal 55 assist center that are a dime a dozen on every team in the leagues 2nd, 3rd and 4th lines are much more valuable. It actually fascinating how far his detractors will move the goal posts. Before he won a cup they weren't that concerned because no matter what he did he would always be a loser. After the cup, he started getting some recognition as long as he wasn't able to surpass other fan favorite players. now players he is always compared too, suddenly have "amazing" defensive games to go along with their scoring abilities. Matthews is the latest example. While he is currently the best goal scorer and earned it this season, that is not enough for his fans. He is better then Ovi ever was due to some made up defensive game. Nevermind that he is not physical in any way and disappears every spring

 

[Fantomas]

Like I said originally I think Ovi is going to get the record, it's just sad to see how much he has slipped in this calendar year and how bad it potentially will get chasing the record.

I remember seeing guy Lafleur when he came back and it was cool but players obviously didn't play hard against him and he just didn't look anything like the Flower in his heyday but it is what it is, everyone including capitals ownership is 100% in on the goals record.

LOL, beyond parody.

 

[Fantomas]

You pretend that you are concerned about him (or his team) looking bad late in his career

I believe there's a term for this. Concern something. Begins with a 'T'.

 

[Fantomas]

Producing like... prime Lafleur.

 

[ALLCAPSALLTHETIME]

Lol. Tearing someone else down, always makes you feel good, right?

In this case, tearing down Ovie makes his/her favourite player look better.

This thread is being dragged continually off topic on purpose. It is a concerted effort to try to create pain so that they can derive pleasure from it. It's actually kind of disturbing.

Back on topic. The quest for 50 resumes in Las Vegas tonight.

 

[Plural]

Ovechkin is not a possession player and his game has flaws in it. But he's still a elite offensive player and a top-5 goal-scorer in the game. He's not a net negative to his team. Anyone saying that is saying it because of an agenda. I can get behind the idea, that Ovechkin is not quite as valuable as his stats indicate. But he's not a player who's sinking his team. His scoring prowess is good enough to sink opposing teams.

 

[Dingo]

haha, i especially love the insinuation, using old man Lafleur, that teams arent playing Ovechkin hard.

So funny. I’m not a Caps fan and I wouldnt mind seeing them win the Cup again just to come on here and witness the spin.

 

[SkinsFan09]

Seriously dude?

But I guess that will get you the likes you want and deflect attention away from the stats right?

Here they are again and it's extremely clear that he is hurting the team at ES.

The point is you don't get to casually toss out the first 40% of the season when he would have won the Hart Trophy.

The Capitals entire second line was missing for like 20-30 games and they were tied for the best record in the league because of Ovechkin's dominance in the fall and winter.

They then had a HORRID stretch of hockey as a team going 8-12-2 and now they've rebounded. He also had an injury along the way that clearly impacted his play in January.

 

[ALLCAPSALLTHETIME]

The point is you don't get to casually toss out the first 40% of the season when he would have won the Hart Trophy.

The Capitals entire second line was missing for like 20-30 games and they were tied for the best record in the league because of Ovechkin's dominance in the fall and winter.

They then had a HORRID stretch of hockey as a team going 8-12-2 and now they've rebounded. He also had an injury along the way that clearly impacted his play in January.

I don't think he/she has time to consider the facts that without Ovie putting up a Hart Trophy winner quality first half, the Caps likely would not even be in the playoffs. He/she is too busy playing with his/her Ovie voodoo doll.

 

[zenthusiast]

Ovechkin f***ing rules. If you can’t appreciate him you’re a dork

 

[andrjusha]

If he can do back to back 50 goal seasons (this season and next) he’ll be #1 all time with 10 50 goal seasons.. 48 or 46 goal seasons tho I’m sure he must already own the “record” lol

OV shares records for number of 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 49 goals seasons.
OV has absolute records for number of 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48 goals seasons.

He could add to this collection a nice rounded record number of 50 goals this season.
He could get a record of 35 goals seasons next season.

He is undisputed GOAT of 35-50 goals range and only modern league scoring levels and lockouts/covid prevent him to have more such records.

 

[andrjusha]

Producing like... prime Lafleur.

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Goals Created? Thats like rocket science,
most posters can only calculate PPG and compare it to 1

 

[wetcoast]

Ovie leads the team in ES goals and ES points by significant margins.

Your post is beyond stupid.

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My post was specifically about his play and obsession with goal scoring since Jan 1st and going forward, the stats provided speak for themselves but yes we all know that you think the facts are beyond stupid.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Because that's exactly what I said right?

Well no it wasn't but it is clear that his obsession with the goals record is glossing over the fact that 5 on 5 he has been a real liability out there since January 1st.

the stats simply don't lie and it's not like he isn't being sheltered with offensive zone starts either.

when someone is a "real liability" they ought to be scratched so they stop hurting the team, stop playing coy, you are saying what you are saying

 

[wetcoast]

Yes, he couldn't keep up with his earlier production, but he will most likely hit another 50 goal mark and also get 90 points (something he hasn't done since the 2009/10 season). Impressive numbers for a 36-year old in my opinion.

"how bad it potentially will get chasing the record." - Do you think that Ovi would use a rolling chair in his office to collect goals? If he becomes utterly noncompetitive, I am sure that he would not want to be a part of a circus and just retire even if he can't reach Gretzky.

Honestly, I have a feeling that you are trying to devalue the potential goal record by Ovi. You pretend that you are concerned about him (or his team) looking bad late in his career, but, in reality, you just don't want him to break the record. You just won't admit it publicly

I wonder if you even read what I said as I think Ovi is going to get the record and it doesn't hold any value in any real sense for me as he is the greatest goal scorer of all time.

If he ends up 50 goals shy of Wayne or scores one goal more it wouldn't make any difference to me, his legacy is already set.

The value is for the few that think it trumps something for him in being a lock top 5 or better than player B because of the number of goals, like as if people don't evaluate entire performance on the ice.

But you know one thing, it's really funny that no one is actually disputing the facts but instead just making alot of noise as if his performance since Jan1st or heck even include December in there as well if you want has been really meh at ES no bones about it.

 

[wetcoast]

haha, i especially love the insinuation, using old man Lafleur, that teams arent playing Ovechkin hard.

So funny. I’m not a Caps fan and I wouldnt mind seeing them win the Cup again just to come on here and witness the spin.

I'll clarify as I'm not insinuating that teams aren't playing hard against Ovechkin, I was merely stating how different Lafleur looked in that last season with the NYR from his prime but maybe I should think about how people might twist my thoughts before I post them I guess......heck it wouldn't matter as people did that with the stats anyways right?

I like to post organically and that was the thought that came to my head it wasn't a comparison or comment on how opposition teams are playing Ovi.

 

[wetcoast]

The point is you don't get to casually toss out the first 40% of the season when he would have won the Hart Trophy.

The Capitals entire second line was missing for like 20-30 games and they were tied for the best record in the league because of Ovechkin's dominance in the fall and winter.

They then had a HORRID stretch of hockey as a team going 8-12-2 and now they've rebounded. He also had an injury along the way that clearly impacted his play in January.

I wasn't casually tossing out the start of the season but it was night and day difference in Oct/Nov and from Jan 1st to now.

Or do you want to toss out the bigger sample?

 

[wetcoast]

when someone is a "real liability" they ought to be scratched so they stop hurting the team, stop playing coy, you are saying what you are saying

You are the only one saying this but in reality if a player is -15 and is also having 80% of his starts in the offensive zone is that really helping his team?

Here are the stats once again for the entire capitals team.

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24 goals doesn't hide reality.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

first 40 assist season for ovi in over a decade

 

[filinski77]

first 40 assist season for ovi in over a decade

Also looked like Ovechkins shot was going in either way, but Kuzy tapped it in.

Obviously more important to ensure the puck goes in, but still!

 

[HTFN]

I wasn't casually tossing out the start of the season but it was night and day difference in Oct/Nov and from Jan 1st to now.

Or do you want to toss out the bigger sample?

The biggest sample is the whole season lol. You’re not picking a bigger sample, still just a selective one.

No shit it was night and day when he was a Hart candidate but that’s the whole point

 

[Jbwest31]

My post was specifically about his play and obsession with goal scoring since Jan 1st and going forward, the stats provided speak for themselves but yes we all know that you think the facts are beyond stupid.

Come on guys. He’s clearly talking about the two months Ovie wasn’t playing well, not the two months he was Hart level. You’re not allowed to consider the two months he played really well because he didn’t play at Hart level for the next two months. Geez it’s not that hard.

 

[andrjusha]

You are the only one saying this but in reality if a player is -15 and is also having 80% of his starts in the offensive zone is that really helping his team?

Here are the stats once again for the entire capitals team.

NHL Stats

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www.nhl.com

24 goals doesn't hide reality.

OV is
+21 Oct-Dec
-14 Jan-Feb
+0 March-April
(was waiting for him to get to 0 and he just did, second time Kuz "robbed" him of a goal, hehe)

It correlates with Caps W/L, its all connected , Caps sucked because OV sucked because Caps sucked because he is Caps top player

 

[wetcoast]

Come on guys. He’s clearly talking about the two months Ovie wasn’t playing well, not the two months he was Hart level. You’re not allowed to consider the two months he played really well because he didn’t play at Hart level for the next two months. Geez it’s not that hard.

Gee thanks Wally.

 

[ALLCAPSALLTHETIME]

Assist #40 for Ovie. First time he's reached the 40 assist mark since 2010-11. That could be record setting.