kugelbahn
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Cool stats, interesting that *stroms have different A1/A2 ratios.
Would be nice to include num of games where they both played (or shared mins on ice) to get a sense of rate.
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Would be nice to include num of games where they both played (or shared mins on ice) to get a sense of rate.
Randyne
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A lot, about 100, IMO. This season 4-5 already.
That just means Caps' PP is not currently working. On PP, Backstrom's job was to throw the puck back to Carlson/Green, who then would very quickly pass to OV in the left circle, and that's how Backstrom got a lot of A2, and Carlson/Green got a huge number of A1 for a defenseman.
Randyne
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Also Carlson got so many primaries by passing back to Ovechkin immediately after recieving Ovechkin's pass.
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ugh so many dudes on that list that played opposite Ovi for so long who had zero finish to their game. If Poti, Brouwer, Chimera, or Mojo could hit the broad side of a barn, Ovi would have 100 more assists on his career. His playmaking has always been way underrated due to having stonehanded crosseyed guys receiving many of his best passes.
I'm beginning to think this is satire. Is this satire?
Ovechkin, as agreed by every single professional player including #99 (will you actually try to convince us that YOU know better than Wayne?) has been a top 5 most valuable player in the league for the tenure of his career.
Your disdain for him goes way past hockey. You just won't come out and say it.
The hockey universe holds loves him. You had a very particular obsession with dismantling reality to prove a point- much like saying to all those around you the sky is green, and no matter how many people say it is blue, can be proved to be blue, you will say the sky is green and it has wronged you.
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There was a comment near the end - the database I pulled this from only covers 1960 to 2020 (except Ovechkin, who I calculated manually).
(Also, it's only for players who played in at least 20 years. None of Larmer, Jarvis, Kessel and Yandle qualify).
SeanMoneyHands
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I mean hes still a plus player, similar plus/minus as Malkin, higher than Patrick Kane, Stamkos, Giroux etc etc.
If you count power play goals hes been on the ice for about 350 more goals for than against, that competes with almost anyone.
pi314
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If it's only for the last 20 years, then why do we care about 1960-2000 (I guess that's just because of the database). Kessel and Yandle obviously played in the last 20 years (last couple or last few for each not included.....so not sure how their stats would come out.....but again, doesn't this make the list kind of irrelevant if you are missing people....sounds like you fixed or added missing data for Ovechkin but nobody else.
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