Ovechkin milestone thread - 850 and Beyond!

[Randyne]

+54 actually

RS
GF 2265 - GA 1287
PO
GF 209 - GA 113
+1074 on ice goal differential

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Tell you what, I know he has haters and people who are all about him. As a neutral fan who just loves great players, this guy is going to be missed when he retires. Unreal he's 39 and scoring like this still, wish the Flyers had a guy even close to Ovechkin in my lifetime, enjoy him while it lasts. It's seems almost impossible he just find ways to adapt to keep scoring even though he's a shell of what he was when he burst on to the scene, but that's how the greats do it. I feel like that goal where he falls down and sweeps it on his back not even looking and it goes in is a complete microcosm of his entire career.

 

[filinski77]

Another cool fact is that he has a great chance to break the record for most goals by a 39 year old at 39 goals by Gordie Howe, he was 6 goals off the record for 38 year olds held by Brett Hull

Ovie holds the goal by age record for:
37
36
34

Age x seasons - Ovi’s ranks:
20 = 5th
22 = 4th
23 = 8th
28 = 10th
29 = 9th
30 = 6th
32 = 3rd
33 = 2nd
34 = 1st (in 68gp)
36 = 1st
37 = 1st (in 72gp)
38 = 2nd
39 = Needs 40 for 1st or 30 for 2nd

All this is despite most people on the list at each age bracket being in much higher scoring eras when you look at it. Incredible.

 

[BallardEra]

I think the way Ovechkin wants it to play out is to break the record this season and then next summer the Caps and Ovie announce 2025-26 will be his last season.

2025-26 will be his farewell tour season.

 

[kugelbahn]

If only OV were a "good ol' Canadian boy" he'd have God-status at this point

Somehow the 1972 Summit hate has metastasized for many over decades and the hate has been handed down and instilled over generations to some

How high Alex Owen of Toronto, "the curse breaker", lifelong Leaf, would have been ranked all-time?

 

[SniperOnTheWing]

I don't get how 1972 Series made Canadians hate Soviets/Russians.

Canadians were playing dirty trying just to bully/injury Soviet players. They tried to hunt down Kharlamov pretty bad & they did it succesfully.

You don’t have to go all the way back to 1972. There are much more recent world events you could point to that may have caused a certain distaste for Russian players. Whether or not you consider it fair to the players, some people think that way.

 

[Randyne]

Ovi's float:

 

[AD1066]

RS
GF 2265 - GA 1287
PO
GF 209 - GA 113
+1074 on ice goal differential

I've seen this twice now and I don't understand where the numbers are coming from. His aggregate +/- over his career is +54.

 

[Randyne]

I've seen this twice now and I don't understand where the numbers are coming from. His aggregate +/- over his career is +54.

It's not +/-. It's total on ice goals for and against.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

On pace for 58 goals. Would be ironic if he wins the Rocket. Has a 39 year old ever won the rocket?

 

[AD1066]

It's not +/-. It's total on ice goals for and against.

I must be slow this morning, what is the distinction? ES vs. all situations?

 

[Randyne]

I must be slow this morning, what is the distinction? ES vs. all situations?

All situations. Total team ES, PP, EN, SH goals for and against when he was on ice.

 

[BallardEra]

On pace for 58 goals. Would be ironic if he wins the Rocket. Has a 39 year old ever won the rocket?

No.

Howe finished 3rd in 1967-68 with 39 goals.

Hull had 44 and Mikita had 40.

 

[Kamaya Painters]

I think the way Ovechkin wants it to play out is to break the record this season and then next summer the Caps and Ovie announce 2025-26 will be his last season.

2025-26 will be his farewell tour season.

He'll probably announce he's going for 1000 after he breaks Gretzky's record. Then it's time for retirement.

 

[Auston Marlander]

I've seen this twice now and I don't understand where the numbers are coming from. His aggregate +/- over his career is +54.

Playing on every PP and no PKs drastically enhances the stat the poster is showing. It's the reason +- is an even strength or short handed stat.

 

[Randyne]

Playing on every PP and no PKs drastically enhances the stat the poster is showing. It's the reason +- is an even strength or short handed stat.

Enhances not only his stat, but his team too. Many times his PP presence translated 5 on 4 situation to 4 on 3 (one D covers him separately). WSH have the best PP% since 2005/06 (even considering last awful seasons).

 

[kugelbahn]

Playing on every PP and no PKs drastically enhances the stat the poster is showing. It's the reason +- is an even strength or short handed stat.

I wonder what is OV goalie-pulls/empty-netters +/- ?
He is always there in both situations it seems.

 

[pi314]

RS
GF 2265 - GA 1287
PO
GF 209 - GA 113
+1074 on ice goal differential

Easy to post stats that include significant power play time.

He’s +54 when both teams have the same number of players.

And that includes a shit ton of empty betters so it’s even less impressive.

While playing a lot of his career on the top regular season team.

Bet if you took the median player on the Caps each year during his tenure they would be higher.

Been past the second round once.

There’s a reason why Bruce Boudreau said he’s not good without the puck.

Because he’s not.

Floater.

You guys will remember him as a top 10 guy because stats.

But definitely not in terms of actually winning.

In reality he’s closer to Brett Hull.

 

[Randyne]

Easy to post stats that include significant power play time.

He’s +54 when both teams have the same number of players.

And that includes a shit ton of empty betters so it’s even less impressive.

While playing a lot of his career on the top regular season team.

Bet if you took the median player on the Caps each year during his tenure they would be higher.

Been past the second round once.

There’s a reason why Bruce Boudreau said he’s not good without the puck.

Because he’s not.

Floater.

You guys will remember him as a top 10 guy because stats.

But definitely not in terms of actually winning.

In reality he’s closer to Brett Hull.

All goals count the same.
No matter if you win by PP goal. It's still a win.
~1/5 of all NHL goals scored on the PP.
1/5 is a huge part of the game.

 

[Hockey241978]

Easy to post stats that include significant power play time.

He’s +54 when both teams have the same number of players.

And that includes a shit ton of empty betters so it’s even less impressive.

While playing a lot of his career on the top regular season team.

Bet if you took the median player on the Caps each year during his tenure they would be higher.

Been past the second round once.

There’s a reason why Bruce Boudreau said he’s not good without the puck.

Because he’s not.

Floater.

You guys will remember him as a top 10 guy because stats.

But definitely not in terms of actually winning.

In reality he’s closer to Brett Hull.

Take Ovi away from the Caps & the team is a lottery team during his career! Take away Crosby from the Pens & they still have a playoff team! Just look at the Pens record without Crosby for evidence of this.

 

[kugelbahn]

3 days rest for OV.
In meantime looks like this thread will be used for Crosby fanboy entertainment

 

[43sfriends]

Easy to post stats that include significant power play time.

He’s +54 when both teams have the same number of players.

And that includes a shit ton of empty betters so it’s even less impressive.

While playing a lot of his career on the top regular season team.

Bet if you took the median player on the Caps each year during his tenure they would be higher.

Been past the second round once.

There’s a reason why Bruce Boudreau said he’s not good without the puck.

Because he’s not.

Floater.

You guys will remember him as a top 10 guy because stats.

But definitely not in terms of actually winning.

In reality he’s closer to Brett Hull.

Stats are numbers that express who won the game.

Holy **** you are dense.

 

[Nemesis Prime]

Ovi's float:

I'd be more concerned about the Blue that's floating.

 

[aylib]

All situations. Total team ES, PP, EN, SH goals for and against when he was on ice.

What is the +/- effect on both sides in EN situation—same as ES?

 

[Iggys Dome]

It’s amazing to me that he might actually do it this season. Without the two lockouts and COVID season he’d be flirting with 1000 at this point