Ovechkin milestone thread - 850 and Beyond!

[banks]

Funny how all the most “durable” players are all floaters. Kessel, Marleau, Kane, Ovechkin, etc.

Amazing what not playing defense, battling along the boards, or blocking shots will do for one’s durability.

Do... do you think Ovie is a floater who doesn't battle along the boards?

 

[tfwnogf]

Funny how all the most “durable” players are all floaters. Kessel, Marleau, Kane, Ovechkin, etc.

Amazing what not playing defense, battling along the boards, or blocking shots will do for one’s durability.

Putting pucks in the net is the best defense you can ask for.

 

[vippe]

Funny how all the most “durable” players are all floaters. Kessel, Marleau, Kane, Ovechkin, etc.

Amazing what not playing defense, battling along the boards, or blocking shots will do for one’s durability.

Why are you even here

 

[Dingo]

Do... do you think Ovie is a floater who doesn't battle along the boards?

I have a buddy, Crosby fan to be fair, who sounds just like the guy you responded to.

I say what you have said, in one form or another, well i have been saying it for fifteen years.

Ovechkin plays the offensive zone HARD, especially when he was younger. No, he isnt a big backchecker, but I want my wingers forechecking and hitting and my centers playing the 200ft game. He is playing the role that makes the most sense for his skill set.

 

[NatusVincere]

I think the legends of the game are given a certain level of respect late in their careers. You could see it with Jagr; nobody was going to risk running the guy and forever being known as the one who ended his career.

No one except one:

 

[BallardEra]

Why are you even here

The haters have never left.

They lurk and read the thread from afar.

 

[Bizz]

Funny how all the most “durable” players are all floaters. Kessel, Marleau, Kane, Ovechkin, etc.

Amazing what not playing defense, battling along the boards, or blocking shots will do for one’s durability.

Ovechkin has more hits than the rest of those players combined.

 

[banks]

I have a buddy, Crosby fan to be fair, who sounds just like the guy you responded to.

I say what you have said, in one form or another, well i have been saying it for fifteen years.

Ovechkin plays the offensive zone HARD, especially when he was younger. No, he isnt a big backchecker, but I want my wingers forechecking and hitting and my centers playing the 200ft game. He is playing the role that makes the most sense for his skill set.

Right!? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills sometimes. I know Ovie isn't perfect in his own zone. Controller disconnect bla bla bla. But the guy is not a perimeter floater, and he absolutely digs in the corners. The guy is a truck in the offensive zone.

 

[kugelbahn]

The haters have never left.

They lurk and read the thread from afar.

Not many talking points left for them:
16P in 12G, balanced G/A, just 1 ENG, +10, just 18:11 mins per game with less than 20 shifts per game (12th on Caps)
Narratives destroyed, inevitability settled...

 

[BallardEra]

Not many talking points left for them:
16P in 12G, balanced G/A, just 1 ENG, +10, just 18:11 mins per game with less than 20 shifts per game (12th on Caps)
Narratives destroyed, inevitability settled...

I also think part of it is they were hoping he had 1 or 2 goals by now with the Caps at the bottom of the standings. This way they could tell us he is washed and the Caps live to only get him to 895.

I get the feeling his haters aren't happy at the moment.

 

[Selanne00008]

No one except one:

Man, I've see that clip 100 times but just the hit. I didn't know they scored on the turnover as well.

Funny how all the most “durable” players are all floaters. Kessel, Marleau, Kane, Ovechkin, etc.

Amazing what not playing defense, battling along the boards, or blocking shots will do for one’s durability.

See above. Yep, total floater. NObody tries taking Jagr on like that. If I tried I would be in the hospital for weeks. It's damn near impossible to put Jagr on his ass like that. Ovie is 3rd all time in hits.

Speaking of Ovie haters. What ever happened to the Canes fan that was ALWAYS in here, Ovie's #1 hater. Did he like, exit stage left? Get the ban hammer??

 

[BallardEra]

Man, I've see that clip 100 times but just the hit. I didn't know they scored on the turnover as well.


See above. Yep, total floater. NObody tries taking Jagr on like that. If I tried I would be in the hospital for weeks. It's damn near impossible to put Jagr on his ass like that. Ovie is 3rd all time in hits.

Speaking of Ovie haters. What ever happened to the Canes fan that was ALWAYS in here, Ovie's #1 hater. Did he like, exit stage left? Get the ban hammer??

Do you mean that @HurricaneFanatic poster?

 

[User9992]

I also think part of it is they were hoping he had 1 or 2 goals by now with the Caps at the bottom of the standings. This way they could tell us he is washed and the Caps live to only get him to 895.

I get the feeling his haters aren't happy at the moment.

Capitals have the 2'd best 'Winning %' in Eastern Conference & will most likely make Playoffs again with Ovi as a key player.

I wonder how many times Caps missed the Playoffs with Ovi in his 19 NHL seasons? Very few times i guess.

 

[BallardEra]

Capitals have the 2'd best 'Winning %' in Eastern Conference & will most likely will make Playoffs again with Ovi as a key player.

I wonder how many times Caps missed the Playoffs with Ovi in his 19 NHL seasons? Very few times i guess.

I'm gonna guess 3 times without researching it with one being his rookie season

 

[Ghost of Murph]

Floaters don't have 3304 career hits (first two seasons hits weren't recorded, so likely add 450 more hits to his total). They don't have half the seasons they've played where they made 200+ hits.

It's utterly insane that a man who is going to break the all-time goals record also has made well over 3000 hits. Compare that to other ultra-elite goal scorers of this era. Those milk drinking primadonnas don't even have career averages of over 1 hit a game. They must be lazy floaters too, eh?

Ovi in his prime was a wrecking ball in addition to being an elite goal scorer. Russian machine is strong and doesn't break.

 

[User9992]

I think his style has helped a lot too. He's obviously a physical force, and loves to throw the body, but he takes shockingly few hits for a guy who throws so many hits. In fact, in the last 3 seasons, nobody has a higher ratio of hits given to hits received (>1,500 mins).

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He's received only 1.46 hits/60 in the last 3 seasons, meaning he gets hit less than once every 2 games. The only forward in the sample who took less hits per minute than Alex Ovechkin was the late great Johnny Gaudreau (1.33).

That doesn't make his longevity and durability less impressive, but it definitely helps when you're 6'3 240lbs and taking less contact than guys like Patrick Kane and Artemi Panarin lol.

I wonder is it result of Ovi being good at avoiding hits, or players avoiding to hit Ovi for some reason (respect, getting bounced, making him angry)?

 

[kugelbahn]

Floaters don't have 3304 career hits (first two seasons hits weren't recorded, so likely add 450 more hits to his total). They don't have half the seasons they've played where they made 200+ hits.

It's utterly insane that a man who is going to break the all-time goals record also has made well over 3000 hits. Compare that to other ultra-elite goal scorers of this era. Those milk drinking primadonnas don't even have career averages of over 1 hit a game. They must be lazy floaters too, eh?

Ovi in his prime was a wrecking ball in addition to being an elite goal scorer. Russian machine is strong and doesn't break.

It is 3665, they started counting in 06-07, after his first season

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[Video Nasty]

I'm gonna guess 3 times without researching it with one being his rookie season

Four. They missed it his first two years.

And because everything is Crosby vs Ovechkin, if the Capitals make it this season and the Penguins miss again, they’ll have both missed the playoffs just four times in twenty seasons.

Longest drought during their tenures are those first two seasons of Ovechkin’s career and three in a row if the Penguins do miss.

 

[kugelbahn]

Four. They missed it his first two years.

And because everything is Crosby vs Ovechkin, if the Capitals make it this season and the Penguins miss again, they’ll have both missed the playoffs just four times in twenty seasons.

Longest drought during their tenures are those first two seasons of Ovechkin’s career and three in a row if the Penguins do miss.

Crosby missed it 4 times already, first 2 and last 2.

 

[Ghost of Murph]

It is 3665, they started counting in 06-07, after his first season

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Thanks. I was using Hockey Reference for my numbers. So, in essence, Ovi has a real chance at going over 4000 career hits. Crazy.

 

[Video Nasty]

Crosby missed it 4 times already, first 2 and last 2.

No, just his rookie season and the last two so far.

 

[Selanne00008]

Do you mean that @HurricaneFanatic poster?

Although I clearly remember they had canes in the handle, i don't think it was him/her/they.

This poster was just hating every single post for the past multiple years. That one doesn't ring a bell.

 

[HF007]

50 goals at age 39 would be downright insane.

Move past Gretzky, hit 900, sets most 50 goal seasons record, and leads the caps to a good playoff spot, I would give him a legacy hart lol

 

[AD1066]

Floaters don't have 3304 career hits (first two seasons hits weren't recorded, so likely add 450 more hits to his total). They don't have half the seasons they've played where they made 200+ hits.

It's utterly insane that a man who is going to break the all-time goals record also has made well over 3000 hits. Compare that to other ultra-elite goal scorers of this era. Those milk drinking primadonnas don't even have career averages of over 1 hit a game. They must be lazy floaters too, eh?

Ovi in his prime was a wrecking ball in addition to being an elite goal scorer. Russian machine is strong and doesn't break.

I will be forever salty that the Hal Gill goal didn't count.

 

[kugelbahn]

No, just his rookie season and the last two so far.

Yeah, my bad, hockey-reference got me confused with this table
(they track playoff extra/possession stats from 07-08)