HF Habs: Out of Town Thread: Off-Season Edition

[ReHabs]

Leo Carlsson hat trick tonight
Connor Bedard 4 pts night yesterday
Adam Fantilli not doing too bad either.

Hope you all enjoyed those extra 3-4 wins stolen by the goaltender or won by useless bottom line players.

The stolen games were annoying to watch — I have nothing but frustration at Jake Allen and the dumb contract Hughes gave him — but I don’t think you can criticize the fans or the team for us drafting fifth. We couldn’t have been worse and those AHLers played better than expected — what can you do?

Leo Carlsson scoring a hat trick. Man, that smarts.

Imagine having Carlsson and celebrating his hat tricks instead of Slafkovsky and celebrating his nice pass that one time and the takeaway from five games ago.

 

[the valiant effort]

Bedard’s still not on a PGP pace after a 4 point night. Habs fans would have rightfully crucified this fraudster a week ago.

McCrosby he is not.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Nylander is a fine player, but i'd rather keep that cash for Hughes to snake charm Drai or McD or another top center, like he did Chia pet to get Nurse that big pay day.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

That's funny... Before the season started everyone was saying how much stronger the east got and bla bla bla. Games aren't played on paper and we're clearly seeing it.

There's a few things I noticed about this season:

- teams are much weaker than everyone thought they'd be
- there seems to be a LOT more shorties getting scored
- Goalies have gotten a lot worse across the board. It's almost as if there are far fewer teams putting emphasis on goalie development. And it's been a trend for the last while but we're seeing the results of this now. Goalies are bad man.

Goalies aren't bad and they haven't stopped training them. They just have smaller equipment since 2019 and the training techniques haven't caught-up with the holes that the rule change has left. Couple this with 2 expansions which has a bit thinned out the talent on teams, leaving a bit more space on the ice.

 

[SergeConstantin74]

Pathetic NHL

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Nylander is a gamer , I'd take him over no show nostrils and 2 minutes delay of game scared of being hit Marner personally , its funny because both Marner and Am34 play more physically than Nylander who never engages in contact but at least Wild Bill gets to the slot and elevates in the post season. Im talking Nylander at 7 mill though.

The 10+ he's gonna get this offseason is another story

 

[DAChampion]

Nylander is a gamer , I'd take him over no show nostrils and 2 minutes delay of game scared of being hit Marner personally , its funny because both Marner and Am34 play more physically than Nylander who never engages in contact but at least Wild Bill gets to the slot and elevates in the post season. Im talking Nylander at 7 mill though.

The 10+ he's gonna get this offseason is another story

Nylander is on track for his third consecutive PPG season, and you wouldn't pay him 10+?

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Nylander is on track for his third consecutive PPG season, and you wouldn't pay him 10+?

Oh I would just not this offseason because I don't want to accelerate the rebuild. In other circumstances absolutely

 

[DAChampion]

Nylander is a fine player, but i'd rather keep that cash for Hughes to snake charm Drai or McD or another top center, like he did Chia pet to get Nurse that big pay day.

Obviously, McDavid would be best, but if you can get a star, you take a star. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Nylander is on track for his third consecutive PPG season, and you wouldn't pay him 10+?

Nylander wants a long term over 30 retirement contract. Those never end well. Skilled forwards age like milk. You have to win in big ways during the first couple of years of the contract to make it worth the risk and we’re in no position to do that.

 

[DAChampion]

Oh I would just not this offseason because I don't want to accelerate the rebuild. In other circumstances absolutely

Really, you'd rather get another 6th overall or whatever in 2025?

I think that 2024 should end the rebuild. That's three years in a row. Plus Dach is coming back next year, plus Calgary's pick might be amazing.

 

[Lshap]

I keep waiting/hoping for Michkov to fall apart and reveal why a few teams passed on him. But he still looks dominant, and I'm still shaking my head at how our scouts talked themselves out of drafting him.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Obviously, McDavid would be best, but if you can get a star, you take a star. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

I'd keep the cash for the opportunities for a star center. Full stop.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I keep waiting/hoping for Michkov to fall apart and reveal why a few teams passed on him. But he still looks dominant, and I'm still shaking my head at how our scouts talked themselves out of drafting him.

Pretty sure the nix comes from Molson. The fact it leaked so early lends a lot of weight to that theory.

Alternatively, maybe Michkov pulled a Lindros, had a limited list which all teams were aware of and we just weren't on it.

Maybe a bit of both.

We'll learn the truth someday.

 

[morhilane]

Pretty sure the nix comes from Molson. The fact it leaked so early lends a lot of wait to that theory.

Alternatively, maybe Michkov pulled a Lindros, had a limited list which all teams were aware of and we just weren't on it.

Maybe a bit of both.

We'll learn the truth someday.

There was plenty of pundits info after the draft about it. Only Arizona really spoke of it, but apparently Michkov made it clear if he didn't want to play for you. He wanted to go to the Flyers for some reasons, even visited the installations before the draft.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Really, you'd rather get another 6th overall or whatever in 2025?

I think that 2024 should end the rebuild. That's three years in a row. Plus Dach is coming back next year, plus Calgary's pick might be amazing.

Yeah, I don't see us in the bottom 5 next year if we survive injuries. Talented youth should start to coalesce in the next two seasons, with all the incoming arrivals.

23-24, probable bottom 5, 24-26 surging somewhere between 8-15th last, then 26-28, when they should start to be really competitive if it was done well.

 

[Lshap]

Pretty sure the nix comes from Molson. The fact it leaked so early lends a lot of wait to that theory.

Alternatively, maybe Michkov pulled a Lindros, had a limited list which all teams were aware of and we just weren't on it.

Maybe a bit of both.

We'll learn the truth someday.

I'm doubtful Molson places his opinion over that of his head scouts, but who knows what happened. Yeah, I think we'll eventually get some details, but whether it's the actual truth or a slanted version of it... again, who knows. Like most things in history, the story will shift to favour the storyteller. If Michkov becomes a star, it'll be the other guys who nixed him; if Michkov busts or never comes over to the NHL, then we'll hear a few people claim, "I knew there was a problem".

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I'm doubtful Molson places his opinion over that of his head scouts

If it was politically/ideoligically driven, I have no trouble seeing it happening.

 

[Chili]

Technically Brayden Point is tied for 10th

Conner Bedard will probably be among them before too many years. Was just an eye opener when I noticed that last night (without Point).

 

[sandviper]

Leo Carlsson hat trick tonight
Connor Bedard 4 pts night yesterday
Adam Fantilli not doing too bad either.

Hope you all enjoyed those extra 3-4 wins stolen by the goaltender or won by useless bottom line players.

But think of how much development that meant for players like Belzile and his heroics?

 

[atrud66]

William Nylander pegs me as the sort that will eat it to stay in Toranna.
I think he's too much of friends with those guys.

So that's what you're in to

 

[NotProkofievian]

That Leo Carlsson is pretty good eh?

 

[Gustave]

Nylander is a fine player, but i'd rather keep that cash for Hughes to snake charm Drai or McD or another top center, like he did Chia pet to get Nurse that big pay day.

You've been a Habs fan your whole life I'll presume.

In your lifetime, have the Habs been able to draw in a UFA of that type (McDrai).

Don't do this to yourself

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

You've been a Habs fan your whole life I'll presume.

In your lifetime, have the Habs been able to draw in a UFA of that type (McDrai).

Don't do this to yourself

The most improbable outcomes often meet reality.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Leo Carlsson hat trick tonight
Connor Bedard 4 pts night yesterday
Adam Fantilli not doing too bad either.

Hope you all enjoyed those extra 3-4 wins stolen by the goaltender or won by useless bottom line players.

The Habs still finish 28th with 4 less wins so even in your alternate reality the Habs draft 5th.

That being said I'd rather have Bedard. Hope yall enjoyed Alex Belzile