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thinkwild

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A familiar script. Played well but a mistake and a goalie that couldnt save it and we go down. Did seem we were competing with them and it couldve gone either way with Ullmark for example. Big line shut down by Lowry too, they need to get going.
 

Tuna99

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Another game we play well and cant even get a point since out goaltending cant hold it down...

Winnipeg gas 3 home loses all season, you’re dealing with a team that doesn’t need to play well and they still win and we’re seeing that tonight. Overall not bad but not good enough that’s for sure.

Sogaard isn’t an NHL goalie, guy lets in 1 bad goal per game at least
 

Knave

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Do people really think this loss in on Soogard?

Yes. It is.

This is a road game against the top team in the league.

We outshot them. We out chanced them. They had defensive breakdowns too.

Our goalie:

High slot, failed to make a save. Connor Helleybuck? Multiple saves from the high slot and low slot.

Weakest backhand shot in the 2024-2025 NHL season on a rush chance contested by Chabot? Failed to make a save. Connor Helleybuck on the rush? Perfect on multiple chances.

Soogard is bad. Send him down right now.
 
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Agent Zuuuub

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Do people really think this loss in on Soogard?

It’s not.

We were winning 2-0. Centimeters from being 3-0.

First goal Kleven-JBD not clearing the puck. Not covering their guys.

Second goal on Soogard, okay.

Third goal can’t clear the puck, ends up in a PP for the Jets. Cross crease pass. D leaving the lanes open across the net. Easy goal.

Fourth goal there’s 3 guys below the hashmarks, let a 30 goal scorer totally alone in 8 feet from the net. That’s a goal 99% of the time.

Multiple times we had the puck on our sticks tonight and just couldn’t get the puck out of the Dzone. This is what cost us the game.

The team did not play well defensively tonight. Against a team like the Jets it was not going to end well. Soogard is undoubtedly bad but the goals he let in tonight besides the 2nd goal I would’ve never expected him to stop.

People are spoiled because of Ullmark.
 

Boud

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Yes. It is.

This is a road game against the top team in the league.

We outshot them. We out chanced them. They had defensive breakdowns too.

Our goalie:

High slot, failed to make a save. Connor Helleybuck? Multiple saves from the high slot and low slot.

Weakest backhand shot in the 2024-2025 NHL season contested by Chabot? Failed to make a save. Connor Helleybuck on the rush? Perfect on multiple chances.

Soogard is trash. Send him down right now.

The point is you cannot expect Soogard to play like Helleybuck, or Ullmark or even Forsberg.

This loss is not on him. The guys needed to play a perfect game to even sniff a win. They didn’t. Results were to be expected.
 

Micklebot

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Sogaard let them back in it with that awful backhand goal. I don't see how we can continue to give him starts, every game he's letting something in that shouldn't ever go in.
 

swiftwin

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Knave

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The point is you cannot expect Soogard to play like Helleybuck, or Ullmark or even Forsberg.

This loss is not on him. The guys needed to play a perfect game to even sniff a win. They didn’t. Results were to be expected.

How about better than a peewee hockey goalie? He was flailing around out there like he was playing goalie for the first time in his life. No rebound control. No positioning. Nothing. Garbage.
 
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Boud

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How about better than a peewee hockey goalie? He was flailing around out there like he was playing goalie for the first time in his life. No rebound control. No positioning. Nothing. Garbage.

He was flailing around. None of those flailing situations ended up the in the back of the net though.
 

PlayOn

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Do people really think this loss in on Soogard?

It’s not.

We were winning 2-0. Centimeters from being 3-0.

First goal Kleven-JBD not clearing the puck. Not covering their guys.

Second goal on Soogard, okay.

Third goal can’t clear the puck, ends up in a PP for the Jets. Cross crease pass. D leaving the lanes open across the net. Easy goal.

Fourth goal there’s 3 guys below the hashmarks, let a 30 goal scorer totally alone in 8 feet from the net. That’s a goal 99% of the time.

Multiple times we had the puck on our sticks tonight and just couldn’t get the puck out of the Dzone. This is what cost us the game.

The team did not play well defensively tonight. Against a team like the Jets it was not going to end well. Soogard is undoubtedly bad but the goals he let in tonight besides the 2nd goal I would’ve never expected him to stop.
Second goal can’t go in against a team like the Jets. You’re facing the best goalie in the league and the team with the most points, allowing a goal like that is gonna sink you.

People always say it’s our defensive play but a bad goal per game is what our goalies outside of Ullmark give us, if not two. Makes it awfully hard to win, and it’s funny how when Ullmark is in nets and not giving up those goals we win a lot more than we lose.

We don’t have the offensive firepower to survive with these goalies.
 

Mr Hat

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Do people really think this loss in on Soogard?

It’s not.

We were winning 2-0. Centimeters from being 3-0.

First goal Kleven-JBD not clearing the puck. Not covering their guys.

Second goal on Soogard, okay.

Third goal can’t clear the puck, ends up in a PP for the Jets. Cross crease pass. D leaving the lanes open across the net. Easy goal.

Fourth goal there’s 3 guys below the hashmarks, let a 30 goal scorer totally alone in 8 feet from the net. That’s a goal 99% of the time.

Multiple times we had the puck on our sticks tonight and just couldn’t get the puck out of the Dzone. This is what cost us the game.

The team did not play well defensively tonight. Against a team like the Jets it was not going to end well. Soogard is undoubtedly bad but the goals he let in tonight besides the 2nd goal I would’ve never expected him to stop.

That 4th goal was brutal, no screen, no pass options, take the shooter. An NHL goalie stops that 99/100 times. This game is largely on Soogard, but not fair to him being I expect a W against the jets but have a fun career in the AHL because his only skill is drinking water aggressively. Hamonic is also a putrid plug loser who should retire yesterday.
 

Agent Zuuuub

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If you play one of the best teams in the NHL with one of the hottest lines in the NHL and have a bad defensive game how are you expecting a win?

The team deserved to lose tonight. Soogard or not.
 

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