Ottawa 67s 2024-25 Season Thread, Part III

We really need to let everything play out and see what happens int he offseason. So many changes could happen that alter the landscape of the 67’s. Although, if Cameron is back, I am not sure Ekberg is a fit on this team. Like Uronen, he would get traded if there isn’t’ a spot for him or he decides to make a trade request. Boyd will trade guys if they aren’t happy. Going back to Europe would likely be a Plan “B” in the unlikely scenario where he requests a trade after Cameron officially returns

That is what I said: between now and the OHL draft, we are going to know what the plan is either by OSEG and Boyd's actions or inactions.

Ekberg not making the draft would be the worst thing that could happen to this team on a Euro basis. Uronen then Ekberg wanting out and them keeping Korbler says so much about the org that players are going to want to stay away.

Anyway as we know the only thing that is left is to see how DC screws things up by actually fighting to market the playoffs. LOL
 
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I forgot about the Oshawa deal. Yes, I had heard that one too.

From what I was able to piece together, Pinelli wasn’t keen on Brantford. But, he would go it he had to. Then the OA deadline had passed. I believe it was supposed to be Mayich and Pinelli and when Brantford didn’t get that deal done, they shifted focus to a different OA D-Man. That nixed the Brantford deal. Not sure if there was a picks only option but it sounded like Pinelli didn’t want to go there anyway. I’m pretty sure that’s when Boyd and Pinelli had a conversation and both of them said they weren’t keen on the options so they decided to fold the tent and not do something neither of them really wanted. But, I think that discussion happened the day before. I think both sides preferred to give an extra day to get the Kitchener deal done. That is just speculation on my part though.
Here is what I heard that happened. On the weekend before the deadline, a deal was done with Barrie. Pinelli got cold feet and blocked it. Barrie moved on to Romani. Then a deal was done with Brantford. Pinelli had no interest. He wanted Oshawa. Oshawa had already got their Dman, and didnt have the assets that Ottawa wanted. Once Boyd told the Pinelli camp that Oshawa was out, Pinelli said he would go to Barrie, but it was too late, they made their deal and were no longer interested.
 
Here is what I heard that happened. On the weekend before the deadline, a deal was done with Barrie. Pinelli got cold feet and blocked it. Barrie moved on to Romani. Then a deal was done with Brantford. Pinelli had no interest. He wanted Oshawa. Oshawa had already got their Dman, and didnt have the assets that Ottawa wanted. Once Boyd told the Pinelli camp that Oshawa was out, Pinelli said he would go to Barrie, but it was too late, they made their deal and were no longer interested.

Sounds about right. The only difference was that I thought Barrie made the deal with NB as their Plan “A.” It explains the timing. If that deal was their Plan “A” then they could have made that deal as early as Jan 1. It also explains a lot of the rumblings about Barrie.

I had also heard that Pinelli wanted Kitchener but then the rangers either wouldn’t piece together an appropriate package or a player wouldn’t waive to go to Ottawa. Not sure but it sounded like Pinelli thought he was going to Kitchener a couple days before the deadline.

Either way, I hope he is content with any decision he has made. Regrets suck. He will at least get to play in the AHL sooner.
 
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Sounds about right. The only difference was that I thought Barrie made the deal with NB as their Plan “A.” It explains the timing. If that deal was their Plan “A” then they could have made that deal as early as Jan 1. It also explains a lot of the rumblings about Barrie.

I had also heard that Pinelli wanted Kitchener but then the rangers either wouldn’t piece together an appropriate package or a player wouldn’t waive to go to Ottawa. Not sure but it sounded like Pinelli thought he was going to Kitchener a couple days before the deadline.

Either way, I hope he is content with any decision he has made. Regrets suck. He will at least get to play in the AHL sooner.
I heard he wanted Kitchener, but the feeling wasnt mutual with the Rangers and talks didnt really get off the ground. Not sure on that one though.

The offseason will be interesting to see if they can get any USHL, BCHL and/or US Dev Team players to commit. That would change the outlook for 25-26 quickly.
 
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I heard he wanted Kitchener, but the feeling wasnt mutual with the Rangers and talks didnt really get off the ground. Not sure on that one though.

The offseason will be interesting to see if they can get any USHL, BCHL and/or US Dev Team players to commit. That would change the outlook for 205-26 quickly.

There are three categories fo those players. Category #1 are the mature players they had drafted. Guys like Cole McKinney and Asher Barnett. Those guys will be very tough to sign but they would both be difference makers for sure. Category #2 are the younger guys like Vandenberg. He’d be a good signing but I am not sure how much of an immediate impact he’d have on next seaosn. I think he’d be more of a 2026-27 impact. Category #3 are the proverbial “free agents.” These are guys that are not protected by any OHL clubs. They are likely more mature. Maybe their first year in the NCAA as an 18 year old didn’t’ go very well and they look at the OHL as a fresh restart. Play in the OHL for a season and get back to the NCAA when they are a year or two older and better positioned to be successful. That is a wildcard category. This is the category that could change the fortunes of the 67’s overnight, especially if they can nail down two 19 year old centres.
 
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There are three categories fo those players. Category #1 are the mature players they had drafted. Guys like Cole McKinney and Asher Barnett. Those guys will be very tough to sign but they would both be difference makers for sure. Category #2 are the younger guys like Vandenberg. He’d be a good signing but I am not sure how much of an immediate impact he’d have on next seaosn. I think he’d be more of a 2026-27 impact. Category #3 are the proverbial “free agents.” These are guys that are not protected by any OHL clubs. They are likely more mature. Maybe their first year in the NCAA as an 18 year old didn’t’ go very well and they look at the OHL as a fresh restart. Play in the OHL for a season and get back to the NCAA when they are a year or two older and better positioned to be successful. That is a wildcard category. This is the category that could change the fortunes of the 67’s overnight, especially if they can nail down two 19 year old centres.
For a lot of these guys it will depend on what the 678's give them as to development.

Vandenberg is going to be a key part of the CR team next season. Here, he would see limited ice time and not play the same style as CR.


The free agent players have to have a reason to come to the OHL and to Ottawa in particular. I think you have to look at the rest of the OHL and ask where we rank as far as things to offer player development, playing time and winning.

Would you instead go to Niagara or Brantford or come here?

Again, before they can even consider NCAA players, they need to examine the organization and determine what they want and the long-term goal of this team.

They need to solve the perception of negativity in the dressing room.

Here is what I heard that happened. On the weekend before the deadline, a deal was done with Barrie. Pinelli got cold feet and blocked it. Barrie moved on to Romani. Then a deal was done with Brantford. Pinelli had no interest. He wanted Oshawa. Oshawa had already got their Dman, and didnt have the assets that Ottawa wanted. Once Boyd told the Pinelli camp that Oshawa was out, Pinelli said he would go to Barrie, but it was too late, they made their deal and were no longer interested.
Is waiting until the last weekend of the deadline, not waiting too long. To me, with Pinelli, I would have been on the phone a lot sooner. Also, why are we giving players all this control over what happens to them? It is not like they are NHL superstars, and even the NHL is regretting these NTC
 
For a lot of these guys it will depend on what the 678's give them as to development.

Vandenberg is going to be a key part of the CR team next season. Here, he would see limited ice time and not play the same style as CR.


The free agent players have to have a reason to come to the OHL and to Ottawa in particular. I think you have to look at the rest of the OHL and ask where we rank as far as things to offer player development, playing time and winning.

Would you instead go to Niagara or Brantford or come here?

Again, before they can even consider NCAA players, they need to examine the organization and determine what they want and the long-term goal of this team.

They need to solve the perception of negativity in the dressing room.


Is waiting until the last weekend of the deadline, not waiting too long. To me, with Pinelli, I would have been on the phone a lot sooner. Also, why are we giving players all this control over what happens to them? It is not like they are NHL superstars, and even the NHL is regretting these NTC

Again, still too many unknowns to make any sweeping certainty claims like Vandenberg would get limited ice time here next year. Or, that he would get meaningful ice time in Cedar Rapids. That Cedar Rapids team is not great and it isn’t a young team. A lot of 18 and 19 year olds on that team. They stand to graduate a fair number of players. I am not sure Cedar Rapids is a sexy location that can recruit in the same manner as some of the other teams. I am not certain that he will get quality ice, especially if he ends up as the top centre as the youngest player on the team. Is that where he wants to ply for two more seasons or does he choose Ottawa and play at home for three more seasons and delay Providence College a year? Seems like a no brainer but we don’t really know the landscape of the 67’s next year.

I think it is fine to talk about options but placing certainties on anything is wayyyy too premature.

Ottawa has an elite training program and private school education. There is no doubt that the off ice training is amongst the top in the league. The 67’s spare no expense in that regard. There isn’t a player out there that could point at negatives for Ottawa in that regard. The question is on ice development. And, if one single positive change happens, we are back in business. So, there are a lot of variables at play.

With respect to long term plan, I think there isn’t really an issue with respect to goals. The issue is when you are in that pole position, they need to be more aggressive with trades. The only other thing is maybe trying to use analytics less in the draft and move a little closer to drafting size early where possible.

This team has a ton of eligible ‘07s. But, are they ‘07s you can build around or are there a lot of spare parts? We will find out pretty quick next year! Too many LW. Too many average to below average sized players that don’t’ have a scoring touch. Energy guys that go out and play hard but get noting out of it. Which cohort to you try to build around? Do you focus more on the ‘08s? Do you bulk up the ‘07s? Tough to say.

No trade clauses. All first round picks automatically get No trade clauses. All high school aged players have No trade clauses. So, if you are selling a player, odds are pretty good to almost certain that the player you trade for has a no trade clause as a 16 or 17 year old. Only a small handful have them as 18 year olds. Maybe your 1st and 2nd round picks. Not much after that once they get to their 3rd season.
 
Been thinking about post DC( I hope!). Norm Milley has been brought up. I wonder if Martin Dagenais would be in the cards?? I know there was an issue in the Q but his firing was more of an issue with the GM from what I understand but his team was performing well on the ice...and he learned under Tourigny.
 
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Been thinking about post DC( I hope!). Norm Milley has been brought up. I wonder if Martin Dagenais would be in the cards?? I know there was an issue in the Q but his firing was more of an issue with the GM from what I understand but his team was performing well on the ice...and he learned under Tourigny.

Milley would be the obvious replacement since he has been here so long but I am not sure he should be obvious.

When did Dagenais work under Tourigney? He was with the Jr Sens from 2013 through 2019. He joined the 67’s under Cameron. I don’t think there is any real connection there, at least not direct. The Jr Sens may be an affiliate team that has a connection though. I am not sure how strong that bond is and whether they would have worked together in any sort of capacity.

I keep thinking that a sexier option may be better. Go big game hunting and grab an ex-pro coach that is younger and maybe wasn’t quite ready for the NHL. Someone that is maybe on an NHL bench for a team that doesn’t pay great for their assistants. I’d like to see DJ Smith return but that may be asking too much. This isn’t a DJ Smith sort of team but if we could turn into one, that would be fantastic!

Dagenais did have a great year last year. Back to back Championships in the CCHL before joining the 67’s. Two good years as an Assistant in Ottawa followed by a good year on R-N. It is surprising he isn’t coaching this year though. You’d think he would have latched on somewhere.
 
Milley would be the obvious replacement since he has been here so long but I am not sure he should be obvious.

When did Dagenais work under Tourigney? He was with the Jr Sens from 2013 through 2019. He joined the 67’s under Cameron. I don’t think there is any real connection there, at least not direct. The Jr Sens may be an affiliate team that has a connection though. I am not sure how strong that bond is and whether they would have worked together in any sort of capacity.

I keep thinking that a sexier option may be better. Go big game hunting and grab an ex-pro coach that is younger and maybe wasn’t quite ready for the NHL. Someone that is maybe on an NHL bench for a team that doesn’t pay great for their assistants. I’d like to see DJ Smith return but that may be asking too much. This isn’t a DJ Smith sort of team but if we could turn into one, that would be fantastic!

Dagenais did have a great year last year. Back to back Championships in the CCHL before joining the 67’s. Two good years as an Assistant in Ottawa followed by a good year on R-N. It is surprising he isn’t coaching this year though. You’d think he would have latched on somewhere.
You're right I thought he overlaped with Tourigny for a year but he didn't.
 

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