Ottawa 67s 2024-25 Season Thread, Part II

[SoupNazi]

Continued from Ottawa 67s 2024-25 Season Thread, Part I

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[dirty12]

A 17 yr old DiPietro took the spot of a 19 yr old in Windsor winning the memorial cup; it happens. The next season as an OA, that goalie back stopped Kitchener to a conference final with a 0.919 SV%.
Elliot is a perfect 12-0 in two major junior leagues this season, hard to pick apart perfect imo. Good OAs get waived due to roster constraints, see Loshko waived through the Q.

 

[OMG67]

A 17 yr old DiPietro took the spot of a 19 yr old in Windsor winning the memorial cup; it happens. The next season as an OA, that goalie back stopped Kitchener to a conference final with a 0.919 SV%.
Elliot is a perfect 12-0 in two major junior leagues this season, hard to pick apart perfect imo. Good OAs get waived due to roster constraints, see Loshko waived through the Q.

He has a total of 4 playoff wins for two 100+ point teams. THAT is the number everyone seems to ignore.

Keep ignoring it. See what happens.

 

[beastintheeast]

Ottawa proved that you can have above-average but not great goaltending and still win making your goalies look like stars and even first-round NHL picks

All good defensive teams need is the goalie to make that first stop of a shot tht is outside the box.

As to Boyd learning frm Mav that is all anyone needs to Know and it is not a good thing.

Mav was a firm believer in not playing your first-round pick much and then trading him to another team for a rental so that you made the playoffs and got the extra 2=3 game receipts.

If Boyd goes down that road, season ticket holders will revolt because it is not worth it. Boyd would be better off taking advice from Killer (), not because Killer knows about today's hockey, but because his advice would be better than anything Mav would have told him.

 

[OMG67]

Ottawa proved that you can have above-average but not great goaltending and still win making your goalies look like stars and even first-round NHL picks

All good defensive teams need is the goalie to make that first stop of a shot tht is outside the box.

As to Boyd learning frm Mav that is all anyone needs to Know and it is not a good thing.

Mav was a firm believer in not playing your first-round pick much and then trading him to another team for a rental so that you made the playoffs and got the extra 2=3 game receipts.

If Boyd goes down that road, season ticket holders will revolt because it is not worth it. Boyd would be better off taking advice from Killer (), not because Killer knows about today's hockey, but because his advice would be better than anything Mav would have told him.

I think Boyd understands the cycle. The question out there right now based on some insight from others is that next year no matter what is a rebuild. Sell Mews and Marrelli. SO, may as well push some assets in this year and run with Pinelli in his last year. I can understand the logic. I just don’t think we are strong enough to pull it off. I would rather move Pinelli this year and Mews next year (or both this year if Mews is adamant about it). Then don’t move anyone else. Stay somewhat competitive at the bottom of the standings and retool. I think we have a lot of really solid young players that could be special in a few years. The added assets we receive will only help that next cycle.

 

[beastintheeast]

I think Boyd understands the cycle. The question out there right now based on some insight from others is that next year no matter what is a rebuild. Sell Mews and Marrelli. SO, may as well push some assets in this year and run with Pinelli in his last year. I can understand the logic. I just don’t think we are strong enough to pull it off. I would rather move Pinelli this year and Mews next year (or both this year if Mews is adamant about it). Then don’t move anyone else. Stay somewhat competitive at the bottom of the standings and retool. I think we have a lot of really solid young players that could be special in a few years. The added assets we receive will only help that next cycle.

It doesn't work, but hey, go for it. Just watch the fans disappear.

 

[gadder]

The junior hockey cycle has its' ups and downs. I think the 67s upper brass would like the hockey cycle to coincide with the Landsowne construction cycle. We are getting a new arena in about 3 years time (see Engage Ottawa site). The City and OSEG are putting a lot of money into the new site and I'm sure there are plans afoot to capitalise. This means the 67s need to be a great team in 3 years and maybe we can host the Mem cup too. I don't think it makes a difference to this plan if we trade Pinelli and Mews now or in the summer but we do need to draft very well in the next two years.

 

[OMG67]

The junior hockey cycle has its' ups and downs. I think the 67s upper brass would like the hockey cycle to coincide with the Landsowne construction cycle. We are getting a new arena in about 3 years time (see Engage Ottawa site). The City and OSEG are putting a lot of money into the new site and I'm sure there are plans afoot to capitalise. This means the 67s need to be a great team in 3 years and maybe we can host the Mem cup too. I don't think it makes a difference to this plan if we trade Pinelli and Mews now or in the summer but we do need to draft very well in the next two years.

Makes sense but unless Boyd will try to manufacture the timing which can be difficult, the best course of action is to do what they think is best for the franchise and then make minor adjustments when the time comes. But, you are 100% correct. Like any other year, drafting is the foundation of strong franchises. Developing the talent is #2. We did have a very poor ‘06 draft but overall, Boyd has drafted well. We had a solid crop of ‘04s, ‘05s, what looks to be a reasonably good crop of ‘07s and potentially some good ‘08s. I don’t think we can fault management overall.

There has been debate on development. Part of that is ensuring players want to be here and it seems we’ve struggled as of late with a handful of players requesting moves. That could be a sign or it could just be a spell of bad luck. Sample size is too small to say for certain.

With respect to the redevelopment and new arena which would be phase one of the nest plan, it will go to City Council approval in Q3 2025. The new arena would open Q4 2027. That would be good for the 67’s BUT I don’t think they would go for a Memorial Cup until at least the construction is done for the North Side Football stadium with is slated to be completed until Q2 2030. So, if everything goes as planned, I could see Ottawa bidding for the 2030 Memorial Cup to be held in the OHL. However, phase 3 (residential development) won’t be completed until Q2 2034 so any Memorial Cup bid would have to consider the active construction zone unless they wait for 2036.

So, the first season for the 67’s in the new arena would likely be 2027-28. The ‘07 group will be OA’s that season with the current ‘08 group being the 19 year olds. Assuming there are no additional ‘07s added through trade, the most likely OA candidates for that season would be Nelson, Whitehead, Yanni, and Dietsch. Our current crop of ‘08s (Amidovski, Eshkawkogan, Perrier, Bonomo, Vandenberg) would anchor that team.

 

[beastintheeast]

Makes sense but unless Boyd will try to manufacture the timing which can be difficult, the best course of action is to do what they think is best for the franchise and then make minor adjustments when the time comes. But, you are 100% correct. Like any other year, drafting is the foundation of strong franchises. Developing the talent is #2. We did have a very poor ‘06 draft but overall, Boyd has drafted well. We had a solid crop of ‘04s, ‘05s, what looks to be a reasonably good crop of ‘07s and potentially some good ‘08s. I don’t think we can fault management overall.

There has been debate on development. Part of that is ensuring players want to be here and it seems we’ve struggled as of late with a handful of players requesting moves. That could be a sign or it could just be a spell of bad luck. Sample size is too small to say for certain.

With respect to the redevelopment and new arena which would be phase one of the nest plan, it will go to City Council approval in Q3 2025. The new arena would open Q4 2027. That would be good for the 67’s BUT I don’t think they would go for a Memorial Cup until at least the construction is done for the North Side Football stadium with is slated to be completed until Q2 2030. So, if everything goes as planned, I could see Ottawa bidding for the 2030 Memorial Cup to be held in the OHL. However, phase 3 (residential development) won’t be completed until Q2 2034 so any Memorial Cup bid would have to consider the active construction zone unless they wait for 2036.

So, the first season for the 67’s in the new arena would likely be 2027-28. The ‘07 group will be OA’s that season with the current ‘08 group being the 19 year olds. Assuming there are no additional ‘07s added through trade, the most likely OA candidates for that season would be Nelson, Whitehead, Yanni, and Dietsch. Our current crop of ‘08s (Amidovski, Eshkawkogan, Perrier, Bonomo, Vandenberg) would anchor that team.

Ther uis so much we don't know about this team and it's plan. Right now I think Boyd has to be looking at coaching and decide what he wants to do. This year will be interesting not for on ice but for off ice performance. Both Boyd and DC contracts expire at the end of 2026. Therefore that tells me that OSEG will be looking at ths situation. Does Boyd want to put all his money on DC or does he find something else.

Let's face it no matter what these contracts end when we are goingto be developing and drafting players.

Having players say no or asking for trades is not what OSEG is going to want to see in their team.

You also have to think that Jan would not mind a shot at being the boss.