OMG67
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Wow , you realize that that is what I have been preaching about all the OA this year. They need to go somewhere that they are going to get the games. At this stage, I doubt there is another CHL team that needs him. I think the best he can hope for is the same as Donoso. Looking at the way that OA has been treated on this team, I think Boyd has screwed up. I can see the team view, but looking at the players, I think he has been unfair. The only player who is guaranteed to play when released is Stonehouse, as I am sure the Oilers can make room in the ECHL for him.
This is not an Ottawa issue; it is a league issue. I think the rule needs to be changed so that you can have a two-OA period by the end of October. That would allow players to move and find a place.
Next year we arepotentially going to go through the same crap
Horner
Foster
Barlas
Dever
Pinelli
That is why I think we need to trade at least 2 of these players this year at the deadline. No matter what the return it for some of them.
That’s actually not what I am saying.
Every player makes a decision. In Ottawa’s situation, all the OA’s knew what the situation was. Sirman knew he was not going to be in Ottawa all year. He had to either wait it out with Ottawa until he had a landing spot or decide to go the same route as Smyth and go to school now. The team allowed him to play long enough for a spot in the QMJHL to open up for him. Kudos to Boyd.
In MacK’s situation, he knew that there would be him, Stonehouse, Gerrior, and Mayich. One was going to hae to go. If I knew coming into the season that the OA situation league wide was going to be an issue, then clearly Boyd knew it and every one of those players agents knew it and advised accordingly. I was told by multiple people on the inside that Stonehouse was always set to come back to Ottawa. There was never a situation on the table where he wasn’t coming back to the OHL.
This was not some sort of hidden agenda where a player is getting screwed out of the blue. Each of them knew the situation. So each of them signed up for it. I have zero sympathy for the players. However, we are now in a situation where one needs to go within the next 8 weeks. This has reverted from trying to do their best to get assets back for a trade to trying to ensure as best as possible the player that is removed lands somewhere. If that means you keep the player rostered for a bit longer then so be it. Keep him rostered. Liam Sztuska ended up in the QMJHL so clearly the Q-League is not in the same situation for OA’s. IT may be possible for MacK to end up there. If not Mack, then Gerrior. Maybe Gerrior ends up in the CCHL? Who knows? But, that is not the point.
You are taking the stance of doing right by the players by not hanging on to them. You don’t know that is happening. You are assuming there is a landing spot out there now and Ottawa is blocking them. That is likely not the case. It could and is very likely they are trying to do right by the player and waiting for a spot that makes the most sense for the player as opposed to discarding them and making them fend for themselves. Look at last year. Donoso couldn’t get a spot to play until that team moved a couple OA’s right at the deadline which opening up the spot for Donoso. The same situation may happen this year as well. Who knows? But, I can tell you that the reason they are holding on to the player sis specifically because they are doing right by the player, not blocking them.
WRT your comment on the OA’s next year, deal with the OA’s next year. You dont’ bastardize your roster this year to prepare for next year when you don’t know which players will return. You have two NHL draft picks on that list of five players and you are suggesting they need to trade two of them now. Which two? Dever and Barlas? For anything they can get? How about Dever for a 5th and Barlas for a 9th? Then Foster and Pinelli graduate and we have Horner? So we then have to trade for replacements for Barlas and Dever and maybe we pay a 2nd and a 3rd for each. That isn’t a great idea now is it? You have a terrible habit of making these blanket statements without digging into the next level. I KNOW that is not necessarily what you meant but you leave yourself open for criticism when you group players together like they are all the same as if their impact next year will all be the same. It discredits the point you are trying to make.
I think what you are trying to say is it is unlikely that Pinelli returns so maybe we should trade him. Then because we have some younger guys that need ice time, it may be a good ideal to move a player like Barlas because he doesn’t revise anything valuable enough and it isn’t like he would return as an OA next year anyway. You would have provided some depth to why you trade these “particular” players. But, when you say we need to trade at least two of those five, it makes zero sense because then I can cherry-pick and make it sound dumb. This is not the place where you can allow people to cherry-pick and make you sound dumb. They will. Don’t give them fuel.