Ottawa 67's 2023-24 Season Thread (Part One)

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The 67s page writeup states:
"Overage forward Kaleb Lawrence appeared in his 100th OHL game, tonight".

100 games only, as an overager? A typo surely? Otherwise maybe he's capable of some serious development this year...
 
The 67s page writeup states:
"Overage forward Kaleb Lawrence appeared in his 100th OHL game, tonight".

100 games only, as an overager? A typo surely? Otherwise maybe he's capable of some serious development this year...
didn’t play much as a true rookie, lost 17 yr old season to to COVID at 17 then a year plagued by injury …Mayer has played every game since entering the league and sits at 142 gp
 
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The 67s page writeup states:
"Overage forward Kaleb Lawrence appeared in his 100th OHL game, tonight".

100 games only, as an overager? A typo surely? Otherwise maybe he's capable of some serious development this year...
The covid season was his age 17 year and then he only played about four periods of hockey in his age 18 year due to a significant shoulder injury that required surgery. He didn't get fully cleared for contact until just before his age 19 season. I would suspect there is a fair bit of growth and development still to get out of his game which makes the 8th round pick a heck of a steal if he fulfills that potential.
 
Shout-out to Mayich for standing up for his captain who was in deep with a Guelph player. Good scrap, no one's hurt, points are made. Nice to see the boys standing up for each other. And nice to see some 67s anger (frustration?) at the end. No one likes to lose a game badly, so why not whack someone (yeah I miss the Lance G. era).

I like what I see from Whitehead. Every shift I see, he does something good, usually a spurt of possession. It hasn't led to anything yet but it will in time I hope, the glimmers are there.

The powerplay was our get-out-of-jail-free card. But it showed today: without Mews our powerplay is wanting.
 
wow so quiet here?
 

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Donoso is not going to be traded. At this point, he does not have the stats to make a team interested.

I think he will be back up for the rest of the year unless he finds a way to up his game. I realize that it is not all him but an uner 900 save is not going to entice another team.
 
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The intention was never to trade Donoso, if that was going to happen it would have been in the pre-season. Teams don't swing to an OA goalie the implications top to bottom rarely can be justified. They will get him his starts to keep him fresh should he be needed, Mack's work load will be increased at a steady pace.
 
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Does anyone know the status of the injury to Mews? Without him the skill and depth on the back end get thin in a hurry.

Good news is that Cameron's teams rarely have two clunkers in a row. They should be ready to go Friday night...
 
The intention was never to trade Donoso, if that was going to happen it would have been in the pre-season. Teams don't swing to an OA goalie the implications top to bottom rarely can be justified. They will get him his starts to keep him fresh should he be needed, Mack's work load will be increased at a steady pace.

You may be right but Donoso needs to play regularly to be effective. Playing as a backup will degrade his game and he’ll be useless for Ottawa. That seems to be the experience he’s had with the 67s. When he plays a lot, he plays hot and steady. When he plays a little, he is inconsistent. If that is the 67s plan, the plan is flawed greatly. I don’t believe he is capable of being a strong backup. He is capable of being a strong starter. He needs to be a starter. That is what is right for him personally and for the 67s by extension.
 
You may be right but Donoso needs to play regularly to be effective. Playing as a backup will degrade his game and he’ll be useless for Ottawa. That seems to be the experience he’s had with the 67s. When he plays a lot, he plays hot and steady. When he plays a little, he is inconsistent. If that is the 67s plan, the plan is flawed greatly. I don’t believe he is capable of being a strong backup. He is capable of being a strong starter. He needs to be a starter. That is what is right for him personally and for the 67s by extension.
Could he be traded at the deadline to a rebuilding team who have traded their overages to add stability in goal?
 
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The intention was never to trade Donoso, if that was going to happen it would have been in the pre-season. Teams don't swing to an OA goalie the implications top to bottom rarely can be justified. They will get him his starts to keep him fresh should he be needed, Mack's work load will be increased at a steady pace.
The intention I think was/is to trade Donoso. The problem in pres seson was that they did not have a backup and the market was really soft.

The feeling was that Donoso playing well would be an asset to one of the western teams that were going to make a run for it.

As to Chromiak. yeah, he might have been a nice edition but who do you get rid of? It seems that all Sudbury was interested in was picks that they could add to a bundle at the deadline.

If Mews is injured it is going to be interesting to see how the team steps up.

Could he be traded at the deadline to a rebuilding team who have traded their overages to add stability in goal?
Not really anyone that is rebuilding would want a goalie that is available next season The only teams that will be interested in Dnoso are ones that are either trying to make sure they make the playoffs or trying to get to the finals.

Saginaw is in need of a goalie but not sure which OA they would want to give up
 
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You may be right but Donoso needs to play regularly to be effective. Playing as a backup will degrade his game and he’ll be useless for Ottawa. That seems to be the experience he’s had with the 67s. When he plays a lot, he plays hot and steady. When he plays a little, he is inconsistent. If that is the 67s plan, the plan is flawed greatly. I don’t believe he is capable of being a strong backup. He is capable of being a strong starter. He needs to be a starter. That is what is right for him personally and for the 67s by extension.
Flawed or not it was the decision that was made, and now he is a back-up and I'm really not sure a whole lot of options exist in a market that is saturated with OA's.
 
Flawed or not it was the decision that was made, and now he is a back-up and I'm really not sure a whole lot of options exist in a market that is saturated with OA's.

He’s 3.19 and .864% so clearly if that was the decision then it was the wrong decision and I will criticize it for the poor decision it was. It was more important, IMO, to give him an opportunity to play as an OA even if it meant giving him away for nothing. It is very possible they tried that and no one wanted him for the reasons you mentioned. But, he needs to play regardless. And, it cannot be here. Keeping him as a backup for the sake of it is not good for anyone unless the 67s simply don’t give a damn about the player.

The priority is to ensure MacK get true starter minutes and it seems like they are inching closer to that but not close enough yet. He is currently under 400 minutes played while most other starters in the league are above 550 minutes played with 6 guys well into the 600’s. So, not only are they irresponsibly hindering Donoso but they are also shorting MacK of bonafide starter minutes.
 
He’s 3.19 and .864% so clearly if that was the decision then it was the wrong decision and I will criticize it for the poor decision it was. It was more important, IMO, to give him an opportunity to play as an OA even if it meant giving him away for nothing. It is very possible they tried that and no one wanted him for the reasons you mentioned. But, he needs to play regardless. And, it cannot be here. Keeping him as a backup for the sake of it is not good for anyone unless the 67s simply don’t give a damn about the player.

The priority is to ensure MacK get true starter minutes and it seems like they are inching closer to that but not close enough yet. He is currently under 400 minutes played while most other starters in the league are above 550 minutes played with 6 guys well into the 600’s. So, not only are they irresponsibly hindering Donoso but they are also shorting MacK of bonafide starter minutes.
Completely agree with all of these points, the challenge of dealing with OA goalies is that they are either needed in a go for it season or collateral damage in a development year where they are expected to mentor through the process and then watch as their career in the OHL closes out.

As far as Mack's ice time, Ottawa has played the fewest games in the league 11 (660 min. total), playing every minute is unrealistic. He is currently at 60% of the ice time, and I would expect by years end he will be at 65-70% (2,800 min.) which would be consistent with the top goalies in the league most seasons.
 
Completely agree with all of these points, the challenge of dealing with OA goalies is that they are either needed in a go for it season or collateral damage in a development year where they are expected to mentor through the process and then watch as their career in the OHL closes out.

As far as Mack's ice time, Ottawa has played the fewest games in the league 11 (660 min. total), playing every minute is unrealistic. He is currently at 60% of the ice time, and I would expect by years end he will be at 65-70% (2,800 min.) which would be consistent with the top goalies in the league most seasons.

In a league full of average goalies, the 67’s have two bonafide starters. It is unbelievable to me that either the 67’s are being incredibly selfish or the rest of the league cant see it.
 
RE Donoso

What do the 67s want? I think, it's Mack as a starter prepping for next year.
They need a backup this year. Donoso will do fine (if he's amenable).
They have decent young goalies prepping for next year who are not yet ready for this year.
If they trade Donoso they need a backup goalie in return for this year. But they have goalies waiting but not yet ready, so can't trade except for minor improvements.
I think Donoso is a good OHL goalie but not too much beyond that. I think it hurts for him to acknowledge this and he's working through it (Maybe as OMG stated he's just no good as a backup and my psychology is wasted) . Hopefully he'll come to terms and accept reality, do his best here, and prep to move on to Univ or Europe or whatever.

Haven't heard anything about Mews.
 
In a league full of average goalies, the 67’s have two bonafide starters. It is unbelievable to me that either the 67’s are being incredibly selfish or the rest of the league cant see it.
Truth be told I think there is a bit of both, selfishness and lack of knowledge. Ottawa doesn't want to give away their back-up goalie, and teams don't like to trade for another teams 2nd best goalie. It doesn't help that he has looked very average himself this year.
 
Truth be told I think there is a bit of both, selfishness and lack of knowledge. Ottawa doesn't want to give away their back-up goalie, and teams don't like to trade for another teams 2nd best goalie. It doesn't help that he has looked very average himself this year.
The issue I think in part is that their are not many teams looking to add an overage goaltender. London did and was able to obtain Michael Simpson who was the playoff MVP and Erie traded for Ben Gaudreau who played in the World Juniors. I do not think that fact that he is a backup this season is a factor in no interest as he was the starter on the first overall team in the the OHL last year. It just is the lack of interest in overage goaltenders.
 
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He’s 3.19 and .864% so clearly if that was the decision then it was the wrong decision and I will criticize it for the poor decision it was. It was more important, IMO, to give him an opportunity to play as an OA even if it meant giving him away for nothing. It is very possible they tried that and no one wanted him for the reasons you mentioned. But, he needs to play regardless. And, it cannot be here. Keeping him as a backup for the sake of it is not good for anyone unless the 67s simply don’t give a damn about the player.

The priority is to ensure MacK get true starter minutes and it seems like they are inching closer to that but not close enough yet. He is currently under 400 minutes played while most other starters in the league are above 550 minutes played with 6 guys well into the 600’s. So, not only are they irresponsibly hindering Donoso but they are also shorting MacK of bonafide starter minutes.

The solution would have been to move one of your goalies in the summer? Guelph was a team thought to be in the goalie market before the season started, now Gillespie is leading in the goalie stats and they drafted a solid Euro goalie... so that's not happening. Saginaw may be a landing spot for MacK and the 67's end up holding onto Donoso.

Looking forward to tonight's rematch.
 
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